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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, tom@tromey.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	john@yates-sheets.org
Subject: Re: Automatic (e)tags generation and incremental updates
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 18:48:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e39b871f-d784-d6cf-5cbf-760185188ce1@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o8hudwgo.fsf@gnu.org>

On 12.01.2021 17:08, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: tom@tromey.com, john@yates-sheets.org, philipk@posteo.net,
>>   emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
>> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 03:33:10 +0200
>>
>>>>      (write-region (point-min) (point-max) buffer-file-name nil 'silent)
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if *that* could be done asynchronously.
>>>
>>> What kind of asynchronicity did you have in mind?
>>
>> One where the Lisp code doesn't have to wait for the disk write to
>> complete.
> 
> Wed don't have such facilities, because they would need locking the
> region (actually, probably the entire buffer) for changes while it
> runs.

I'd be fine with that (or if this feature required the use of a separate 
thread, with the buffer locked to it in the meantime).

But perhaps we could go with something simpler.

>>> And I'm probbaly missing something, because I don't understand how
>>> Emacs is involved in updating the tags table.
>>
>> It's part of the secret sauce for the quick incremental updates: if
>> etags writes to disk, even just to update one file's index, we'll have
>> to revert-buffer, and the bigger the tags file is, the longer the revert
>> will take. Basically, N(project-size).
> 
> But still faster than write-region, no?  Did you try it the other way
> around: let etags write to a file, and then revert, or even just
> replace some region that you wanted updated (with
> insert-file-contents)?

With a 45 MB tags file visited:

;; If visited normally:
(benchmark 1 '(revert-buffer t t)) ; => 1.49 s
(benchmark 1 '(write-region 1 (point-max) buffer-file-name)) ; => 0.45 s

;; If visited literally:
(benchmark 1 '(revert-buffer t t)) ; => 1.37 s
(benchmark 1 '(write-region 1 (point-max) buffer-file-name)) ; => 0.06 s

(insert-file-contents "...") takes 0.15 in this example, which would 
make it possible to use if etags implemented the same logic that we do 
in Elisp currently (I tried bringing Tom's etags branch up to date, but 
the performance wasn't good). Also, we can choose not to synchronize to 
disk, or do it much less often, whereas we'd have to call 
insert-file-contents during every update.

> Anyway, TAGS and etags.el were designed to be very tolerant to
> changes, so you shouldn't need to update very often.

I want it to update reliably; maybe not too often (depending on a 
project), but if a user switches to a different Git branch, they should 
be confident that they'll see the changes reflected in the index soon. 
Even (and especially) if those are big changes.

Right now only the update-on-save feature is in there, but I have to 
tell you, having a newly written function in the index right away 
(without having to invoke any commands or switch to the terminal) is 
pretty nice.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-12 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-14  3:36 Automatic (e)tags generation and incremental updates Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07  3:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 14:15   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 15:56     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 16:17       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-01-09 21:49       ` Tom Tromey
2021-01-10 13:53         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 16:56           ` Tom Tromey
2021-01-10 19:39             ` Tom Tromey
2021-01-10 23:09               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 23:36             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 23:50               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-11 14:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12  1:33                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12  4:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-12 16:59                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 17:24                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-12 15:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 16:48                       ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2021-01-12 17:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 17:32                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 17:55                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 22:26                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-13 15:01                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-13 15:52                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-13 15:58                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-16  3:57                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-16  7:34                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 16:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 16:58           ` Tom Tromey
2021-01-10 17:56           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 18:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 23:13               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-11 14:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12  1:49                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 15:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 23:26       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19  8:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 14:35           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 15:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20  1:35               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20  7:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 20:27                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20 20:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 21:05                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20 21:14                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-21 19:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 20:39                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-22 16:08                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-22 19:25                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-22 19:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-23  1:15                                   ` Dmitry Gutov

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