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From: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>,
	philipk@posteo.net, john@yates-sheets.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Automatic (e)tags generation and incremental updates
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 09:56:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871resd93f.fsf@tromey.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1e9c9572-52ee-339b-78a2-731b9eb5f3de@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 2021 15:53:10 +0200")

Dmitry> - Do we want to store the generated files openly in the root
Dmitry>   directories of each project?

Yeah.  Either way is fine by me, since the projects I work on already
have TAGS in their .gitignore.

Dmitry> Storing them with "garbled" names somewhere in /tmp of XDG cache
Dmitry> risks having to fully renenerate the indexes at least every time
Dmitry> the machine reboots.

Does anyone really configure their system this way?  XDG warns about
relying on the cache, but in practice I think that is a warning for
developers -- the model being that the user should be able to delete the
cache at any time.  At least on the systems I've used, the cache is
persistent in practice.

Dmitry> Is eliminating the delay worth the
Dmitry> code complexity and increased memory usage?

It should certainly be an option.  Memory is just no barrier on typical
machines these days.

Dmitry> If general, doing updates when Emacs is idle and/or asynchronously are
Dmitry> quality-of-life changes that can come later after we improve
Dmitry> correctness (i.e. make sure the index is up to date even after
Dmitry> external changes).

Please try it on a non-trivial project before committing to something.
IME a lot of these things work fine for simple projects, but when I want
to use them on gdb or gcc, they are unusably slow.

Anyway, thanks for working on this.  Lack of incremental update is why I
stopped using etags, in favor of ggtags.  I hope someday to switch back,
since etags has some features that GNU Global lacks.

Tom



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-10 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-14  3:36 Automatic (e)tags generation and incremental updates Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07  3:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 14:15   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 15:56     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 16:17       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-01-09 21:49       ` Tom Tromey
2021-01-10 13:53         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 16:56           ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2021-01-10 19:39             ` Tom Tromey
2021-01-10 23:09               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 23:36             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 23:50               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-11 14:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12  1:33                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12  4:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-12 16:59                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 17:24                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-12 15:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 16:48                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 17:15                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 17:32                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 17:55                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12 22:26                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-13 15:01                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-13 15:52                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-13 15:58                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-16  3:57                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-16  7:34                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 16:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 16:58           ` Tom Tromey
2021-01-10 17:56           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-10 18:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-10 23:13               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-11 14:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-12  1:49                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-12 15:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 23:26       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19  8:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 14:35           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 15:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20  1:35               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20  7:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 20:27                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20 20:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 21:05                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20 21:14                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-21 19:53                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 20:39                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-22 16:08                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-22 19:25                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-22 19:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-23  1:15                                   ` Dmitry Gutov

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