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From: Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp>
Cc: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm),
	rms@gnu.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@RUM.cs.yale.edu,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What happened to the key-menu patch?
Date: 10 Jul 2002 11:43:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <buowus4cnf8.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200207091358.g69Dwlr26999@rum.cs.yale.edu>

"Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu> writes:
> > sure if it's worth it to add a `dobindings' macro or not.
> 
> Agreed.  There's already a `loop' macro for it in CL.

Yeah, but we don't really like cl in emacs, remember?  Oh wait, you do.

> >      key-description list' is, but it's something like (meta control x).
> >      I guess this is a canonical format for key names in xemacs, but it
> >      doesn't appear to be so in emacs, so I'm not sure how that argument
> >      should be handled (perhaps just punt, and pass whatever's stored in
> >      the keymap).
> 
> I don't think we should try to re-create the XEmacs (meta control x) form
> from our M-C-x symbols.  We could provide an additional compatibility layer
> on top of it, if it proves useful/necessary later on.

So, just pass whatever's stored in the keymap directly?

> >  (2) How are menu entries handled with this?
> 
> As for how we should treat them, I think we should not do anything
> special with them: i.e. `function' will be called with key `menu-bar'
> and with the corresponding sub-keymap as the binding.

That would be consistent with `lookup-key', but it also throws out
a bunch of useful information for menu-entries -- in particular, the
very information that I want for the key-menus!

How about just passing something similar to the corresponding arguments
to define-key, e.g., for keys, `function' would be the function, but
for menu-entries, it would be the whole (menu-item ...) list.

Either way, we have to provide some other sort of function to allow
easily going from one form to the other -- if we just pass the
function/sub-keymap, there needs to be a way for the user to lookup all
the menu-item information, and if we pass the (menu-item...) list
directly, there should probably be some access function(s) to make
getting at the various pieces cleanly.

Perhaps the thing to do is to pass only the function/sub-keymap by
default, but have an optional argument that says `pass all menu info for
menu-items'; this could possible be combined with Richard's suggestion
of having an option to suppress passing menu-items altogether.

We could (rather, should) add a similar optional argument to
`lookup-key' for conistency and utility.

-Miles
-- 
Is it true that nothing can be known?  If so how do we know this?  -Woody Allen

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-10  2:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200205050534.g455YfF01634@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-05-05 22:02 ` Assignment of misc packages for emacs Kim F. Storm
2002-05-06 23:07   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-08  1:16     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  1:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-09  2:45       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-07 14:08   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-08 13:58     ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-08  1:31   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-08  6:23     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-05-14 19:41   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-14 19:41   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-14 23:44     ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-15  1:08       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-15 21:37         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16  1:19           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17 19:29           ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-17 21:42             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-17 19:29           ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-17 21:31             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16  7:22         ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-16 23:41           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-15  4:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-15  8:41         ` Andreas Schwab
2002-05-15 10:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-15 11:08             ` Andreas Schwab
2002-05-15 21:41         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-15 19:27       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-15 20:37         ` Andreas Schwab
2002-05-16 23:39         ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-16 22:49           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-17  6:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-17  7:10               ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17  9:21                 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-05-17 11:13                   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17  9:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-05-17 11:15                   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17 10:47             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-17 10:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-17 11:20                 ` Miles Bader
2002-05-17 12:07                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-17 11:28                   ` Miles Bader
2002-05-18 18:48             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18 21:39               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-19 19:40                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18 22:37               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-19 19:40                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-16 23:07           ` Miles Bader
2002-05-18 18:48             ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-19 11:57             ` Miles Bader
2002-05-19 14:41               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-05-19 15:12                 ` Miles Bader
2002-05-20  6:38                 ` Miles Bader
2002-05-20  9:57                   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-05-20 10:06                   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-05-20 21:34                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-21  9:54                     ` Mario Lang
2002-05-21 10:23                       ` Miles Bader
2002-05-22 22:29                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-21 10:20                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-22 22:27                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-23  7:08                         ` Miles Bader
2002-05-23 16:49                           ` Mario Lang
2002-05-23 22:21                             ` Miles Bader
2002-06-04 17:27                         ` Miles Bader
2002-06-05 14:42                           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-06  1:07                             ` Miles Bader
2002-06-06  1:37                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-06  1:46                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-06  7:57                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-07  0:45                                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-07  0:45                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-05 23:10                           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-06  1:09                             ` Miles Bader
2002-06-06  1:24                           ` Miles Bader
2002-06-07  0:45                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-07 23:26                               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-06-08  1:09                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-08 19:15                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-06 12:04                           ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-06 12:41                             ` Miles Bader
2002-06-06 13:37                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-06 13:45                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-07 23:23                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-08  4:06                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-06-09 15:19                                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-06-10 14:35                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-06-11 19:25                                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-07 22:46                           ` What happened to the key-menu patch? Kim F. Storm
2002-07-09  7:00                             ` Miles Bader
2002-07-09 13:58                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-10  2:43                                 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2002-07-10 18:12                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-10 10:43                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-11 17:13                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-12 17:37                                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-12 18:07                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-13 14:20                                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-13 17:37                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-15  1:09                                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-09 18:51                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-10  2:45                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-07-10 19:20                                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-20 14:48               ` Assignment of misc packages for emacs Richard Stallman
2002-05-18 18:48           ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-18 20:07             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-05-19 19:40               ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-16  7:21       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-16  7:21       ` Richard Stallman
2002-05-15  7:44     ` D. Goel

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