From: Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>,
spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, casouri@gmail.com,
juri@linkov.net
Subject: Re: feature/icomplete-vertical
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2020 19:44:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.NEB.2.22.394.2010052137590453.21691@sdf.lonestar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83v9fobhmo.fsf@gnu.org>
>>> I'm not sure what detail I need to provide. Isn't it clear that using
>>> a buffer-local variable doesn't resolve problems with using that same
>>> buffer in another level of recursive-edit? Or that changing the
>>> window-start position from under the feet of the display engine is
>>> something that should be avoided? Why would you need examples to
>>> realize that a design based on this cannot be clean, in the sense that
>>> use cases where it causes trouble will eventually surface?
>>
>> I think can understand some of Gregory's frustration. If those
>> problems are real, it should be possible to showcase them.
>
> The second one was showcased by Gregory himself.
>
It's unbelievable you dare to write such a sentence, and from my point of
view makes it clear how hard it is to have a discussion with you. For
those who are not aware of the context:
- I explained (to Stefan) what a part of my code did, and said "it does
this because otherwise point could become invisible during a second or
two"
- Eli jumps in the conversation and says "no, that's not possible, point
can never become invisible, if it does it's a bug, please tell me how this
can happen"
- I write a recipe to demonstrate how this can happen
- Eli replies that, even though point becomes invisible with the recipe,
this is after all not a bug, and that the bug is in the recipe
- Eli now uses the recipe I sent him as an argument to explain that my
code, in which I (obviously) do not do what I did in the recipe, can cause
"potential problems"
How could anyone remain calm with this? I can't.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-05 19:44 UTC|newest]
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2020-09-12 13:10 feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-12 13:33 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-12 14:30 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-14 6:44 ` feature/icomplete-vertical jixiuf
2020-09-14 7:08 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-14 15:02 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-14 17:13 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-14 17:31 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-16 15:22 ` feature/icomplete-vertical jixiuf
[not found] ` <20200918005354.muskx2b7tssyqzzk@Ergus>
2020-09-18 3:08 ` feature/icomplete-vertical jixiuf
2020-09-18 11:58 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-18 17:05 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-18 19:52 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 10:55 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-09-20 13:04 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-20 13:15 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 13:37 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-20 14:07 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20 14:28 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 15:04 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-20 15:54 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 16:13 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-20 17:09 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20 17:43 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01 16:48 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-10-02 4:45 ` feature/icomplete-vertical jixiuf
2020-10-03 2:13 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-10-04 23:47 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 4:48 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-10-05 9:06 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 12:23 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-10-05 12:28 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 12:52 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-10-05 5:45 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 9:13 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 9:46 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 9:57 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 10:11 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 10:52 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 11:00 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 11:11 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-05 11:33 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 11:48 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 17:59 ` feature/icomplete-vertical martin rudalics
2020-10-05 18:24 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-05 11:24 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 11:45 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 11:54 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 12:05 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 13:07 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 13:25 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 19:03 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 19:12 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 19:19 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 19:30 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 19:36 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 11:02 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-05 11:32 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 11:54 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-05 11:58 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 12:02 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-05 12:07 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 12:25 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-05 12:33 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 13:19 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-05 13:44 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 19:14 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 19:24 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 19:32 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-06 6:16 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 19:44 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2020-10-05 19:49 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-06 6:20 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-05 13:13 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Stefan Monnier
2020-10-05 7:52 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-10-05 8:22 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Manuel Uberti
2020-10-05 9:40 ` feature/icomplete-vertical João Távora
2020-10-05 10:53 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20 14:49 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-20 15:46 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 21:39 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-18 23:27 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 1:59 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 4:03 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 6:15 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 8:35 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 10:30 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 11:19 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 11:56 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 12:57 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 11:43 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 13:00 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 13:42 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 15:35 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 13:59 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 14:43 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 15:37 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 15:49 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 16:01 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 16:05 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 16:15 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 16:19 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 16:58 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 17:06 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 17:21 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 20:47 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 22:07 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Stefan Monnier
2020-09-20 5:31 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 10:47 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20 13:04 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 21:40 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-20 5:45 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-19 15:55 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-19 10:47 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Ergus
2020-09-19 17:08 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Drew Adams
2020-09-20 0:28 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-20 1:18 ` feature/icomplete-vertical Drew Adams
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2020-10-02 6:37 feature/icomplete-vertical Manuel Uberti
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