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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: English usage bug in bytecomp.el
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 08:02:35 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1050308073303.661A-100000@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc339e4a05030715093f0987a1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Miles and Emacs!

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Miles Bader wrote:

[Discussion of "`foo' is an obsolete function since 21.4;"]

>> .  This combination of "is" and "since" is incorrect English usage.

>I think "is ... since" is pretty common usage actually, and certainly
>makes sense.

<Gnashes teeth>

Yes, it does make sense and it is regrettably common usage, but it is
WRONG.  It is something that a native English speaker would never say.
In this case, it is just as easy to be correct.

When somebody who loves this bastard mess of a language that is English
reads something like that, the effects are not nice:  First there is
shock.  Within seconds, shock gives way to disbelief, disbelief to pain,
and pain to anger[*].  Finally, anger gives way to an irresistible urge
either to string up the writer or to submit a patch.  Thank <insert your
deity here> the latter is possible with Emacs.

And yes, I know all about speaking and writing a foreign language with
"unnecessarily" complex rules.  I've got the greatest admiration for and
sympathy with people who get to grips with English.

Please install my patch.

[*] Quoted from Lynne Truss's book "Eats, Shoots & Leaves".

>-Miles

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-08  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-07 20:17 English usage bug in bytecomp.el Alan Mackenzie
2005-03-07 23:09 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-08  8:02   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2005-03-08  8:49     ` Nick Roberts
2005-03-08 10:24       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-08 11:45         ` Nick Roberts
2005-03-08  9:57     ` Miles Bader
2005-03-08 10:33       ` David Kastrup
2005-03-08 15:37         ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2005-03-08 16:08       ` Bill Wohler
2005-03-08 17:26         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-08 21:10         ` Nick Roberts
2005-03-08 22:15         ` Miles Bader
2005-03-08 22:36           ` Bill Wohler
2005-03-09 16:59           ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-09  3:12       ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-09  9:49         ` David Kastrup
2005-03-09 10:22           ` Miles Bader
2005-03-08 13:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-09  3:12     ` Richard Stallman

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