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From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: luangruo@yahoo.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Platform independent graphical display for Emacs
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 15:27:37 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Mrgpku7--3-2@tutanota.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6gqcfpm.fsf@yahoo.com>

Quoting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-12/msg02557.html
From: Po Lu

> That's only the tip of the iceberg...

Wow, saving this mail.  Thanks.

This is just my $0.02 when it comes to some new system.

It is very valid to work only towards improving Emacs in its current
form without fundamental changes, making it a more pleasant experience
for the stable user base.  Especially for people who aren't into
programming, and can't be expected to fix their environmental all the
time.  Making fundamental changes to expand user base is the risky move
and what would be the gain apart from ideological significance; bragging
rights?

If it is to be done though, new things must be tried. A "Do. Or do not.
There is no try." situation if you will.

Like ditching GTK altogether.  Maybe it will instead attract contributors
that value knowing what goes under the hood, and would much rather
spend time with documentation of Wayland?  Passion for computing
is the common ground for Emacs users after all.




  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-24 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-22 19:19 Motif support xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-22 19:35 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-22 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 20:24   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-23  6:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23  7:58       ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23  8:55         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 11:46           ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 11:52             ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 12:43               ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 12:52                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 17:35                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-24  0:38                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  1:17                       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  1:24                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  1:37                           ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  7:24                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  8:06                               ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  8:24                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  8:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  2:20                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  2:43                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  2:59                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-24  3:17                               ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  3:26                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  3:36                                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  7:27                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  4:30                               ` Platform independent graphical display for Emacs Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  4:44                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  6:28                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24  6:43                                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  5:24                                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-24  7:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  8:10                                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  8:41                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  8:48                                       ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25  0:30                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25  7:25                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 11:23                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 11:38                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 11:57                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 12:06                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 12:59                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:08                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 12:06                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:08                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:36                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 12:20                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 12:29                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 12:49                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 12:54                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:03                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:07                                                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:09                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 13:20                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 14:08                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 14:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 13:39                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:44                                                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 12:37                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 13:00                                               ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 13:05                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 13:11                                                   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 13:17                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 13:26                                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 13:27                                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 11:51                                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:24                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:31                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 14:14                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 14:30                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-26  1:12                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-26  1:51                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-26  1:56                                                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-24  9:55                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 10:02                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 10:16                                   ` Stephen Berman
2021-12-24 10:54                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 11:07                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 11:29                                         ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 11:31                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 11:39                                             ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 12:08                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 12:22                                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 12:27                                                   ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 12:57                                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 13:09                                                       ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 14:27                                                         ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2021-12-24 16:05                                                         ` martin rudalics
2021-12-25  0:22                                                           ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  9:18                                                             ` martin rudalics
2021-12-25  9:42                                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-26  8:25                                                             ` martin rudalics
2021-12-26 10:16                                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 11:45                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24 12:02                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 13:19                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24 13:26                                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 14:00                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25  0:20                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  0:47                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25  0:57                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  3:24                                           ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-12-25  5:03                                             ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  5:12                                               ` Jose Antonio Ortega Ruiz
2021-12-25  5:23                                                 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25  6:57                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25  9:18                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-12-25  5:41                                             ` LdBeth
2021-12-25  5:51                                               ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 13:42                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 14:19                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24 11:50                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 12:45                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24  7:17                         ` Motif support Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24  0:46                     ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 15:05   ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23 15:08     ` Eli Zaretskii

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