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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: Ugly regexps
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2021 00:47:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1lHgpY-0001sO-0F@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <96182b13-f921-6f91-0cdc-320f54ed16bf@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Wed, 3 Mar 2021 21:58:17 +0200)

> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 21:58:17 +0200
> Content-Language: en-US
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> On 03.03.2021 21:21, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > And ERE isn't?
> 
> To be fair, extended regular expressions are the regular expressions 
> flavor most commonly used in the contemporary world, recent/popular 
> programming languages, etc.
> 
> So for a lot of people this won't be +1 thing to learn.

So we are now going to cater to users of other programs more than we
cater to Emacs users who are used to the Emacs RE syntaxes?  How does
that make sense?  Do other programs prefer the Emacs RE syntax to
their own?

We have rx for many years, and just recently enhanced it
significantly.  I fail to see how it would make sense to introduce yet
another RE syntax into Emacs, with all the overhead that brings with
it.  Maybe it could make sense as an ELPA add-on, but not in core.

More generally, I wish we stopped investing so much of our time and
energy in cleanups and other support tasks, and more to add
significant new applications and editing features.  That would make
more users happier, I think.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-04  5:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-03  0:32 Ugly regexps Stefan Monnier
2021-03-03  1:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-03  2:08   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-03  6:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-03 20:46   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-04 18:35     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-03  6:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-03 15:46   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-03 16:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-03 17:44       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-03 18:46         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-03 19:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-03 19:50             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-03 20:16               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-03 19:50             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-03 19:58             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-03 20:07               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-03 20:31                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-03 22:17                   ` Drew Adams
2021-03-03 22:32                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-03 20:32                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-04  5:47               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-03-04 10:49                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-03-04 11:25                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-03-04 11:28                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-04 14:11                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-04 14:25                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-04 14:50                   ` tomas
2021-03-04 15:04                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-05  5:45                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-05 11:47                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-06  5:11                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-04 15:05                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-04 15:11                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-03 19:32           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-03  7:09 ` Helmut Eller
2021-03-03 14:11   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-03-03 16:40     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-03 15:49   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-03 12:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-03 15:48   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-03 13:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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