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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: rrt@sc3d.org
Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, kerolasa@iki.fi,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com, acm@muc.de,
	eliz@gnu.org, sdl.web@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Flymake support for C/C++
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:30:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1e7RNe-0005tP-Qy@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdohSXfiQ1jfp5vekMaSJAsG7OCZKpQh9wBqECxDK69ThZg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Reuben Thomas on Tue, 24 Oct 2017 10:45:55 +0100)

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  > I was saying that, just as we do not insist that all our C dependencies be
  > a) installed in Emacs's git repository and b) distributed as part of Emacs
  > source releases, there is no reason in principle why we cannot have
  > external Elisp dependencies, for example Org and CEDET.

Dependencies of Emacs are lower-level programs that Emacs depends on.
They are not specifically for Emacs; other packages use them too.  We
accept general-purpose lower-level dependencies, and we don't have any
reason to distribute them unless we have made a modified version.
(Which we prefer to avoid, except when really necessary.)

Org and CEDET are not dependencies of Emacs.  Rather, they build on
the core of Emacs.

We don't want Emacs to become a mishmash of pieces we distribute and
maintain and pieces we don't distribute and don't maintain.  That
would be untenable.  So we have two ways of dealing with code that
builds on the core of Emacs:

* You distribute it, you're responsible for it, and we don't support
  it, promote it, or worry specifically about it.

* It's part of Emacs, we distribute it as such, and we can fix it when
  need be.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-25 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-12 15:09 [PATCH] Flymake support for C/C++ João Távora
2017-10-12 15:50 ` Mark Oteiza
2017-10-12 17:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-10-12 18:45   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-10-12 20:45     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-10-12 21:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-10-13  6:28       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-10-12 18:46   ` João Távora
2017-10-12 20:39     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-10-12 21:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-10-12 21:24       ` João Távora
2018-06-01 21:07         ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-06-01 21:54           ` João Távora
2018-06-01 22:08             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-01 23:23               ` Rolf Ade
2018-06-02 10:33             ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-06-02 14:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-02 18:13               ` João Távora
2018-06-03 15:45                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-06-03 16:28                   ` João Távora
2018-06-03 16:43                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-06-03 17:02                       ` João Távora
2018-06-02 17:16           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-02 15:26   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-06-03 13:44     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-10-14  1:34 ` Richard Stallman
2017-10-14  7:10   ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-14  7:58     ` Sami Kerola
2017-10-14  8:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-10-14  8:15       ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-14  8:22         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-10-14  8:29           ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-14 10:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-10-14 11:22               ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-14  8:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-10-17 10:53           ` Phillip Lord
2017-10-17 10:56             ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-18  4:03               ` Richard Stallman
2017-10-18 10:18                 ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-19  3:26                   ` Richard Stallman
2017-10-19  7:38                     ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-22 23:18                       ` Richard Stallman
2017-10-22 23:23                         ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-24  4:12                           ` Richard Stallman
2017-10-24  9:45                             ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-24  9:48                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-10-24  9:52                                 ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-24  9:57                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-10-24 10:07                                     ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-24 10:21                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-10-24 10:28                                         ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-24 15:44                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-10-25 19:30                               ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2017-10-27  0:43                                 ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-28 21:47                                   ` Richard Stallman
2017-10-18 12:16           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-10-18 17:30             ` John Wiegley
2017-10-14 13:55         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-10-14  9:33     ` João Távora
2017-10-14 10:56       ` guillaume papin
2017-10-14 16:29         ` João Távora
2017-10-14 16:36           ` Reuben Thomas
2017-10-18 12:22           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-10-18 14:26             ` João Távora
2017-10-14  9:29   ` João Távora

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