From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Bozhidar Batsov <bozhidar@batsov.com>
Cc: mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Mac port
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 01:47:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1aDo3j-0003jz-VX@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM9Zgm3AsOzoApTGJz+JrUSGO-ypMeu6mcBdUQPiQEKuPMm_Dg@mail.gmail.com> (message from Bozhidar Batsov on Mon, 28 Dec 2015 09:44:18 +0100)
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> We should aim to provide the best possible Emacs experience on every
> platform,
Usually, but not always. The purpose of GNU Emacs is to be a good
part of the GNU system and thus to make the GNU system better; other
platforms are secondary. GNU Emacs should never offer people a
practical reason to use some other system instead of GNU.
Therefore, when someone implements a useful new feature but only for a
non-GNU system, we do not accept it that form. Instead we say, "Make
it work equally well on GNU, and we will accept it."
> many friends
> of mine who were long-time GNU/Linux users work on OS X today, me
> included
This is a VERY bad thing. Can we find ways to discourage this?
In principle, adding nice features to Emacs that work on GNU/Linux and
do not work on MacOS could help. But I don't see much scope for
success that way. I think our principal hope of influencing people is
through influencing the way they think about the choice of system.
For instance, by teaching them to value freedom (which MacOS denies)
more and convenience (which Apple might offer them) less.
If we took the attitude that we aim to "serve the users" wherever they
happen to be, that would convey the message, "Sure, switch to MacOS --
we will make it easier for you." For us, a self-defeating approach.
Thus our stance is that a person who moves from GNU/Linux to MacOS is
being self-destructively foolish. We take this seriously and we must
speak and act in accord with it. This way, we can influence some
people.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
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2012-06-10 9:29 Emacs Mac port YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-06-11 0:36 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-06-11 7:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-07 18:10 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-07 18:13 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-08 11:15 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-08 14:16 ` Samuel Bronson
2012-07-08 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-08 14:58 ` Donald Curtis
2012-07-26 9:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-07-26 21:50 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-08-08 6:01 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-08-27 7:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-09-06 1:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-09-18 9:37 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-09-20 8:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-10-27 4:57 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-11-25 7:26 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-11-25 10:39 ` Leo
2012-11-25 10:59 ` chad
2012-11-25 12:05 ` Leo
2012-11-26 3:26 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-11-25 19:05 ` Glenn Morris
2012-11-26 2:14 ` Leo
2012-11-26 2:46 ` John Wiegley
2012-11-26 20:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-26 21:46 ` chad
2012-11-27 2:35 ` Leo
2012-11-27 4:32 ` Jan Djärv
2012-11-27 19:33 ` chad
2012-12-01 14:04 ` Donald Curtis
2012-12-03 18:58 ` Jan Djärv
2012-11-27 2:34 ` Leo
2012-12-16 5:07 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-01-11 7:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-02-09 7:26 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-02-11 12:53 ` Piotr Kalinowski
2013-02-14 12:02 ` Pavlo Martynenko
2013-02-15 15:48 ` Piotr Kalinowski
2013-02-15 16:03 ` Dmitry Antipov
2013-02-15 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-02-15 19:27 ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-16 6:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-02-16 8:21 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-02-16 11:08 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-05 6:02 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-11 3:41 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-11 9:22 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-14 6:31 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-14 11:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-15 2:17 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-15 5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-15 7:59 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-15 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-15 9:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-15 10:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-16 0:17 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-16 2:11 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-16 6:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-16 10:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-16 10:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-16 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-16 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-16 23:52 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-17 5:08 ` Jan Djärv
2013-04-17 5:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-17 6:36 ` Jan Djärv
2013-04-19 3:58 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-19 7:08 ` Jan Djärv
2013-04-22 8:54 ` Nix
2013-04-23 3:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-04-17 1:09 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-05-11 6:43 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-09-21 9:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-10-24 8:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-10-24 9:47 ` Leo Liu
2013-10-24 10:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-10-25 0:56 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-10-25 4:38 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-10-27 6:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-11-06 8:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-12-27 8:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-02-27 10:03 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-04-01 1:10 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-04-03 15:12 ` David Reitter
2014-04-03 17:30 ` Leo Liu
2014-04-04 0:44 ` Chris Van Dusen
2014-04-04 1:24 ` Xu Xin
2014-04-04 1:59 ` Chris Van Dusen
2014-04-04 0:07 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-04-14 3:00 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-04-14 8:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-05-12 8:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-06-27 8:24 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-08-15 6:19 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-10-02 3:54 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-10-03 14:27 ` Angelo Graziosi
2014-10-03 21:25 ` Xin Xu
2014-10-03 23:20 ` Angelo Graziosi
2014-10-04 8:28 ` Angelo Graziosi
2014-10-06 4:21 ` Kazu Yamamoto
2014-10-06 8:21 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-10-08 2:51 ` Kazu Yamamoto
2014-10-17 23:30 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-10-21 4:44 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-10-21 5:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-11-03 7:08 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-11-03 12:56 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-11-04 3:40 ` Leo Liu
2014-11-21 4:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-11-27 1:43 ` Kazu Yamamoto
2014-11-28 0:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2014-11-28 6:14 ` Sam Steingold
2015-01-29 3:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-02-18 10:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-02-18 10:34 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-03-09 8:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-03-27 10:55 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-03-31 18:07 ` Sam Steingold
2015-03-31 18:42 ` Steinar Bang
2015-03-31 19:00 ` John Wiegley
2015-04-01 0:06 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-04-01 17:21 ` Sam Steingold
2015-04-01 20:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-02 0:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-04-05 23:55 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-04-11 1:30 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-04-11 22:28 ` John Wiegley
2015-05-17 6:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-07-13 4:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-08-25 1:56 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-09-27 8:24 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-10-30 2:52 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-10-31 2:39 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-12-09 3:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-12-13 4:19 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-12-24 10:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-12-24 17:28 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-28 7:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-12-28 8:44 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2015-12-29 6:47 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2015-12-29 9:40 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-12-29 10:43 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-29 11:18 ` CHENG Gao
2015-12-30 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-30 6:26 ` CHENG Gao
2015-12-30 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-28 20:29 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-28 22:35 ` David Engster
2015-12-28 22:54 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-29 6:51 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-29 13:24 ` Rasmus
2015-12-31 6:30 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-31 19:50 ` Chad Brown
2015-12-31 21:36 ` Random832
2016-01-04 22:31 ` Xu Xin
2016-01-05 0:26 ` Andrés Ramírez
2016-01-01 2:29 ` Richard Stallman
2016-01-01 6:54 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-01-01 7:36 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-01 7:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2016-01-01 17:01 ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-01-01 19:35 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2016-01-02 7:54 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-02 22:21 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-03 7:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-03 12:36 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2016-01-04 0:38 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-04 0:42 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-05 1:00 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-05 2:00 ` Chad Brown
2016-01-05 4:53 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-06 10:14 ` Alan Schmitt
2016-01-05 10:50 ` Martin Yrjölä
2016-01-05 12:37 ` João Távora
2016-01-05 13:48 ` Paul Michael Reilly
2016-01-03 22:49 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-29 17:14 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-29 17:50 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-12-30 6:11 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-30 19:57 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-30 20:54 ` Chad Brown
2015-12-31 0:41 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2015-12-31 1:06 ` Paul Eggert
2015-12-31 8:28 ` Adrian.B.Robert
2015-12-29 18:00 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-12-29 18:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-29 18:19 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-29 19:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-12-29 21:46 ` Alex Dunn
2015-12-29 22:37 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-29 22:57 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-29 23:23 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-30 9:44 ` David Kastrup
2015-12-30 6:15 ` CHENG Gao
2015-12-29 18:30 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-12-29 18:57 ` Christopher W Carpenter
2015-12-29 19:03 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-12-29 19:53 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-29 20:03 ` Christopher W Carpenter
2015-12-30 6:11 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-30 10:32 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2015-12-31 6:30 ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-30 10:39 ` David Kastrup
2016-04-22 23:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-04-30 5:57 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-05-01 9:06 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-06-26 4:12 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-07-25 4:44 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-08-22 0:37 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-08-22 7:31 ` Marius Kjeldahl
2016-08-22 10:41 ` Marius Kjeldahl
2016-08-23 0:07 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-08-23 9:02 ` Alan Third
2016-08-24 1:54 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-08-29 19:56 ` [PATCH] Fix synthetic bold on macOS retina displays Alan Third
2016-09-18 6:39 ` Emacs Mac port YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-09-18 7:32 ` martin rudalics
2016-09-18 7:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-09-18 8:15 ` martin rudalics
2016-09-18 8:39 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-09-18 9:52 ` martin rudalics
2016-09-18 14:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-18 15:15 ` martin rudalics
2016-09-18 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-18 17:06 ` martin rudalics
2016-09-18 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-09-19 8:19 ` martin rudalics
2016-09-19 2:01 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-09-19 8:19 ` martin rudalics
2016-09-19 8:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-10-30 5:55 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-02-04 5:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-02-05 2:35 ` Xu Xin
2017-02-05 2:41 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-04-21 23:54 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-05-22 3:31 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-07-27 4:54 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-08-24 1:14 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-09-12 5:31 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-09-13 3:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-09-26 2:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-10-12 8:12 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2018-04-15 7:55 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2018-05-29 3:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2018-06-10 6:09 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2018-09-09 1:11 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2018-10-24 3:58 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2018-11-06 7:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2018-11-16 9:56 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2018-12-21 22:28 ` Leo Liu
2018-12-21 22:59 ` Tim Cross
2018-12-23 3:40 ` Leo Liu
2018-12-22 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 5:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-03-22 9:43 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-03-22 18:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-22 23:14 ` Van L
2019-03-23 0:15 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-23 11:57 ` Alan Third
2019-03-27 19:40 ` Charles A. Roelli
2019-03-24 1:44 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-24 6:10 ` Van L
2019-04-14 6:32 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-08-23 5:50 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-08-29 0:54 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-10-08 3:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-12-03 8:10 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-12-03 9:02 ` Pankaj Jangid
2019-12-04 1:08 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-12-04 10:45 ` VanL
2019-12-05 0:44 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-12-05 5:16 ` VanL
2019-12-05 7:03 ` VanL
2019-12-04 12:09 ` Pankaj Jangid
2019-12-05 1:01 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-12-05 4:07 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-03-23 5:34 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2020-03-24 3:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2020-04-04 11:22 ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-04-04 11:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 11:46 ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-04-04 12:02 ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-08-11 4:17 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2020-11-12 8:09 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2020-11-12 8:34 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-12 9:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2021-03-27 7:59 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2021-11-13 7:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2021-11-13 12:22 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-11-22 13:33 ` Po Lu
2021-11-22 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-23 6:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2021-11-23 7:08 ` Po Lu
2021-11-23 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-06 8:12 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2022-09-13 2:19 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2023-08-05 9:05 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2013-03-11 18:58 ` Current HEAD doesn't build on OSX Randal L. Schwartz
2013-03-11 19:43 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2013-03-12 10:44 ` Darren Hoo
2013-03-12 11:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-12 13:52 ` Tassilo Horn
2013-03-12 15:02 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2013-03-12 16:04 ` Glenn Morris
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-04-23 13:03 Emacs Mac port Angelo Graziosi
2016-04-24 19:40 ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-04-25 0:30 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-10-16 16:01 Konrad Podczeck
2017-10-17 1:41 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-10-30 7:38 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-10-30 8:25 ` martin rudalics
2017-10-30 8:57 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2017-10-31 8:41 ` martin rudalics
2017-10-30 12:43 ` Konrad Podczeck
2018-11-19 7:21 Aaron Madlon-Kay
2018-11-20 0:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2018-11-20 1:07 ` Aaron Madlon-Kay
2018-11-20 10:47 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2019-03-22 19:27 Konrad Podczeck
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