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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: mdl@alum.mit.edu
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Change in rmail-insert-mime-forwarded-message
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2013 11:43:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1TsykF-0007kw-Q6@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ehhwtjgv.fsf@foil.strangled.net> (message from Mark Lillibridge on Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:57:36 -0800)

	(1) forward the exact original message with all formatting and
	attachments included.  That pretty much has to be done via an
	RFC822(sp?) attachment of the original message as received.  As noted by
	bug #9766, some email clients are unable to display such attachments.

	(2) include the text seen by the Rmail user at the time forward is
	called.

Both of these were possible before your change.
The first was done with v f
and the second with plain f.

        I do not think we should use RFC822(?) message attachments for
	this: I haven't read all the relevant RFC's, but I assume the
	destination email client will attempt to display an RFC822(sp?) message
	attachment as if it was a separately received message. 

f always puts the forwarded message into mime attachment, and there is
no problem in this case.  The message _as displayed in rmail_ does not
contain mime part headers.  It has things like this

    [1:text/plain Hide]

instead.

								E.g., deal with
	its in-line multipart alternative parts appropriately, etc.  If you
	attach an invalid message (e.g., bad MIME headers), I would expect the
	recipient to see garbage or an error message for the message attachment.

The problem would never happen when sending the message as
mime-processed by Rmail.

	(3) A smarter version of (2) that both makes the original message
	body visible to the destination client even for clients that don't
	handle RFC message attachments

I can't make concrete sense of that, sorry.

	At the moment, in the absence of availability of (3), I use (1) for
    forward and use resend message to deal with people with limited mailers.
    I don't think (2) is a reasonable default because it drops attachments,
    formatting, and doesn't work for HTML-only messages.

With your change, only (1) is possible.  I think (2) is the right
default, but in any case, it is better to have both options.

So I think I will revert your change.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-09 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-07  2:18 Change in rmail-insert-mime-forwarded-message Richard Stallman
2013-01-07  3:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-08  2:11   ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-09 17:15     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-10  6:19       ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-10 19:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-07  4:43 ` Mark Lillibridge
2013-01-08  2:11   ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-08  3:57     ` Mark Lillibridge
2013-01-08 10:02       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-08 16:32         ` Mark Lillibridge
2013-01-08 18:13           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-23  0:32             ` Mark Lillibridge
2013-01-23  6:44               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-09 16:43       ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2013-01-10 16:53         ` Mark Lillibridge
2013-01-11  4:43           ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-11  8:10             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-11 16:48               ` Mark Lillibridge
2013-01-13 22:43                 ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-14 22:43                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-15  2:13                     ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-15  4:01                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-15  5:27                       ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-15 16:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-16  0:04                           ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-23  0:40                             ` Mark Lillibridge
2013-01-15 17:29                         ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-16  0:04                           ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-16  1:14                             ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-17  6:26                     ` Mark Lillibridge
2013-01-17 21:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2013-04-01 19:06                         ` Mark Lillibridge

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