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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: pmr@pajato.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Neat features in Eclipse editor
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:53:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1JdawB-0006OD-2u@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873aqia0eh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:56:06 -0400)

    > * "Perspectives" are named persistent window configurations.  We have
    > had the window configuration mechanism in GNU Emacs since the
    > beginning but we have never developed a good user interface to take
    > advantage of them.  Eclipse's user interface seems to be good.

    Well, we already have `C-x r w R' (window-configuration-to-register)
    and `C-x r f R' (frame-configuration-to-register) for saving window
    configurations, and `C-x r j R' for restoring them.

The difference is subtle but crucial.  Selecting a perspective in
Eclipse is like selecting a buffer: if you change the buffer contents,
the changes are permanent in that buffer.  If you switch away and
switch back, you see what you last put in that buffer, once again.

Likewise, changes you make in the layout of a perspective permanently
alter that perspective.  The changes persist between sessions too.

There are also several initially defined perspectives that are useful
for specific purposes.

What we have now is a bare-bones feature that isn't really useful.
Perspectives are a convenient feature that really is useful.
Perhaps there is no "fundamental" difference, but the UI difference
is all the difference in the world.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-24  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-22 21:45 Neat features in Eclipse editor Richard Stallman
2008-03-22 21:56 ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-22 21:36   ` Tom Tromey
2008-03-22 23:09   ` Leo
2008-03-23 14:18     ` William Xu
2008-03-23  2:27   ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-23  9:53     ` joakim
2008-03-23 10:50       ` martin rudalics
2008-03-23 10:54       ` martin rudalics
2008-03-23 19:35         ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-03-23 19:39           ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-23 21:06             ` John S. Yates, Jr.
2008-03-23 21:42               ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-23 19:49           ` Drew Adams
2008-03-25  8:11           ` dtm
2008-03-24  0:53       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-24  0:54       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24 19:02         ` joakim
2008-03-25  1:06           ` Bastien
2008-03-25 18:31             ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 19:19               ` Rajappa Iyer
2008-03-26  1:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-26  4:46                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25  1:50           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-18 13:25             ` joakim
2008-04-19  2:23               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24  0:53   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2008-03-24 18:47     ` paul r
2008-03-25  1:50       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25  3:53         ` Window configuration UI (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Stefan Monnier
2008-03-25 10:54           ` Window configuration UI Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 18:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-26  4:47           ` Window configuration UI (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Richard Stallman
2008-03-26  9:41             ` Window configuration UI Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-26 22:26               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27  2:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-27 19:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-29 16:27                   ` Michael Sperber
2008-03-31  2:41           ` Window configuration UI (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Nick Roberts
2008-03-31 16:25             ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-01  3:00               ` Window configuration UI Stefan Monnier
2008-04-01 21:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 10:08         ` Neat features in Eclipse editor paul r
2008-03-25 10:55           ` David Reitter
2008-03-25 11:35             ` paul r
2008-03-25 21:00               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 22:10                 ` paul r
2008-03-26  1:50                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-03-26 22:26                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 21:01           ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-25 21:16             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25 23:17               ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-26  2:23               ` Evans Winner
2008-03-26  7:09               ` Jan Djärv
2008-03-26  7:18                 ` Drew Adams
2008-03-26 22:25               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-26 22:38                 ` Sebastian Rose
2008-03-26 22:57                   ` paul r
2008-03-26 23:20                     ` Sebastian Rose
2008-03-27  6:57                       ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27  0:22                     ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-27  0:17                   ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-27 19:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27 20:18                     ` Sebastian Rose
2008-03-27  0:18                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-25  0:48   ` Bastien
2008-03-24  1:51 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-24 12:29   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-24 18:24     ` joakim
2008-03-25  1:50       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-06 20:52 ` Tab bar (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Juri Linkov
2008-04-06 23:07   ` Tab bar David Koppelman
2008-04-06 23:48     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07  0:05       ` David Koppelman
2008-04-07  0:32         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07 14:59           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 23:27             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08 15:35               ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-08 15:50                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-08 16:58                   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-09 10:33                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09 23:27                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07 14:59       ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 15:33         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-07 23:31           ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08  0:21             ` Drew Adams
2008-04-08  2:06             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-08 22:11               ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  2:00                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-09  8:45                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  9:34                     ` Paul R
2008-04-09 14:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-08 13:58           ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-04-08 14:21             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 15:55               ` Paul R
2008-04-08 16:04                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-08 16:24                   ` Paul R
2008-04-08 16:25                   ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2008-04-08 20:10                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 21:16                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-08 21:47                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-09  2:50                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-09  8:50                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  7:55                           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-09 10:34                           ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09 14:59                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 22:09                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  8:12                           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-09  8:52                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08 16:50                 ` Ehud Karni
2008-04-07 16:09         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-07 16:52           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-07 23:35             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-08 15:36             ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09  1:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-09 10:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 23:28         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-07  1:37   ` Tab bar (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Drew Adams
2008-04-07 14:59     ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 16:09       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-07 23:35         ` Mathias Dahl
2008-04-07 23:33     ` Tab bar Juri Linkov
2008-04-07 15:00   ` Tab bar (was: Neat features in Eclipse editor) Richard Stallman
2008-04-07 23:59   ` Tab bar David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-08 22:06     ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  1:07       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-09  8:48         ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-09  9:24           ` David Kastrup
2008-04-09 23:28             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-10  6:11               ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10  7:31                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-10  7:44                   ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-10  8:08                   ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-10 15:31                 ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-10 23:11                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-12  0:10                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-04-09  9:45           ` Paul R
2008-04-09 23:29             ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-10  8:09               ` Paul R
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-03-28  1:49 Neat features in Eclipse editor Josh Gilbert
2008-03-28 23:54 ` Richard Stallman

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