Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: ekg

[Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com>]

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On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 3:03 AM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:

> * Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com> [2023-01-03 01:29]:
> > I've created a new package called ekg, which can be found at
> > https://github.com/ahyatt/ekg.  I'd like to add it to NonGNU ELPA.
>
> Great to see new package.
>
> My opinions are not related to recording it to NonGNU ELPA.
>
> Related to design, and being heavy user of 1736 different tags, it is
> alright to search within titles, but that only titles are tags is not
> quite in place. That it isn't unique to ekg, does not make it
> better. Maybe there is no need to talk about tags in that place.
>
> I search by title, and by tags, or by both, and by other complexities.
>
> A document may be named "Certificate of Good Standing" and can have
> tag "todo" or tag "Armenia", or "free" or anything that is not
> directly related to title.
>
> I leave that to you. However, I see that the idea comes from the
> following problem you encountered:
>
> > The advantage of this method is that it solves something that has
> > bothered me for a while about the recent suite of tools like org-roam:
> > backlinks are non-symmetrical. If you enter a note in your org-roam
> > daily about emacs, and link it to the emacs note, then when you go to
> > the emacs note, you have to explicitly enable the backlinks buffer to
> > see the daily entry where you first entered it. Systems such as Logseq
> > and the original Roam have backlinks alongside normal content, but
> > this doesn’t seem possible in emacs, where a buffer of a file is
> > expected show the file, and tricks with overlays can’t solve the
> > issue
>
> Your paragraph has explained something, I get only vague clue about
> the main point.
>
> Can you provide screenshot?
>

I've attached a screenshot of ekg, showing a document about "chicago style
pizza" and a reference to it.  They both have the same tags: the date they
were created on, and "chicago style pizza".  If I want a note to show up
when I look at the "chicago style pizza" tag, then I tag it with that tag,
not link it.

This is opposed to the other way of doing it, where you have to use another
buffer.  I'm including a screenshot of how org-roam does it.  But that's
different also to how Logseq does it, which is to have the backlinks
inline.  I'm attaching a third screenshot to show you what I mean there,
see the "Unlinked references" at the bottom.

>
> Is your main point to show the buffer with backlinks at all times?
>

My main point is that it shouldn't be in a separate buffer.  I want it
inline.  It doesn't work to have it inline in the note itself, but it does
work if you have a buffer that lists all notes with the tag, and instead of
linking references to get the backlinks, you just tag things the same way.
Hope this helps.


>
> Or to record the backlinks in first place?
>
> > One of the notable design choices is that this is built on top of my
> triples
> > package (which has been added to GNU ELPA), and so everything, notes,
> tags,
> > URLs, and all, is stored in a sqlite database.
>
> That is good, I may test it and see how it works and if it is scalable.
>
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