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From: Corwin Brust <corwin@bru.st>
To: sds@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: master 83e0442139f: There are no file modes on windows and dos
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 12:14:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJf-WoR_hV=Zq3SRdcMHRJUnBTUtDyPUDod_oRpaAbrQqg904A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6n3u1vx.fsf@gnu.org>

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 11:55 AM Sam Steingold <sds@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> > * Eli Zaretskii <ryvm@tah.bet> [2023-09-29 17:10:54 +0300]:
> >
> >> * lisp/ls-lisp.el (ls-lisp-verbosity): Add `modes' on GNU and
> >> Unix systems.
> >> (ls-lisp-format): When `modes' is not in `ls-lisp-verbosity',
> >> retain only the first character of `drwxrwxrwx'.
> >
> > I have much more serious issues with this change: it is an
> > incompatible change in a long-standing behavior, which AFAIR was never
> > discussed.  Worse, it loses information: files that are read-only
> > (something that _is_ supported on Windows) are no longer marked as
> > unwritable, and executable files (not marked as such in the
> > filesystem, but still a clearly existing attribute that we support) is
> > not shown as such, either.
>
> I came back to windows after a decade-long hiatus and found this feature
> (ls-lisp-verbosity) and thought that lack of mode removing was a simple
> oversight.
>

>
> I did not realize that this notion of permission exists in the MS world
> - but, I suppose, it depends on the FS and NTFS probably supports some
> form of it.
>

Would you consider reverting this change and posting as patches?  I
would be happy to try them, if so; although, I may need guidance (how?
what's expected?).

Also, I would be grateful if you explain the problem you are solving
in terms of how I might run into it.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-06 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <169586843825.5191.11036492923664810557@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20230928023358.9538BC06316@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2023-09-28  3:21   ` master 83e0442139f: There are no file modes on windows and dos Po Lu
2023-09-29 14:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-29 15:53       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-09-29 16:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-05  7:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-06 16:55       ` Sam Steingold
2023-10-06 17:14         ` Corwin Brust [this message]
2023-10-07  5:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-02  7:19   ` Michael Albinus

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