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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: me@wilfred.me.uk, "Daniel Martín" <mardani29@yahoo.es>,
	"Emacs developers" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Helpful in Emacs?
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 09:19:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmnf8jiYSdh25ayM=+O6rR8mXte5eNHGMDXcEV_r9Zh8yg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB49774C621D81EF053501803096D69@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>

Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> writes:

> After looking into the helpful code I realize it used s.el, dash.el and some
> other libraries which are not part of Emacs, so I guess chances to get it into
> Emacs are slim to none, since all those packages would also need inclusion.

From helpful.el:

;; Package-Requires: ((emacs "25") (dash "2.18.0") (s "1.11.0") (f
"0.20.0") (elisp-refs "1.2"))

IIUC, "dash", "s" and "f" are just convenience libraries that could be
replaced with built-in functions.  We have already added some things
to Emacs in recent years that have been inspired by those libraries,
and if there is something needed that is still missing, we could
consider adding that too.

I don't know what "elisp-refs" is or does, but it has the same
principal author as helpful.el.

So it seems to me that none of this is impossible to resolve, in one
way or another.

> So the alternative is to develop similar functionality ourselves into built-in help?

Until we have the copyright assignments sorted, this is indeed our only option.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-10  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-09 10:57 Helpful in Emacs? Arthur Miller
2021-09-09 11:34 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-09 12:35   ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-09 15:21     ` Daniel Martín
2021-09-09 15:48       ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-10  6:20         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-10  7:11           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-10  7:19             ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-09-10  7:58               ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-10  8:14                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-09-10 12:32               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-10  7:26             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-10  8:00               ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-10 11:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-10 11:41                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-09 19:21       ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-09-09 19:51         ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-09 20:23       ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-09 22:55         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-10  0:52           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-10  6:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-10  6:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-10  6:21           ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-10  6:30       ` Juri Linkov

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