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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, ndame <ndame@protonmail.com>
Subject: Re: Making Emacs popular again with a video
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 08:12:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmmkGxD+nthAjQg4P0BaAT+O0go70zrM_0EuDTw7-5eWaw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200509132808.GA42734@breton.holly.idiocy.org>

Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org> writes:

>> IMHO, we should not promote third-party "init files" as a primary
>> option, but rather improve Emacs itself.
>
> Maybe we should embrace them, and provide tools to build custom Emacs
> distributions.

Perhaps I was being unclear.  What I don't like is the suggestion that
we should just tell people to go to website X to download and install
a bunch of init files.

I think we could provide some _variant_ of what these distributions are
doing, namely sets of ready-made customization.  The question is how to
go about it.

I've been thinking a lot about this problem, but I have not had time to
do any serious work.  So please consider these ideas as tentative:

I would propose to add a concept of "custom profiles" (or simply
"profiles"), which are basically defthemes.  Please see the separate
(brief) discussion about this here, and also the related thread:

    https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-04/msg02032.html

One can imagine these "profiles" to be big distributions like spacemacs,
or (perhaps better) small snippets or sets of customization.  Some of
these could/should be included in Emacs by default.

One can also imagine there being one profile providing "good defaults
for a new user".[1]  Maybe such a profile could be the default at some
point in the future, but this is IMHO better discussed and decided once
it actually exists.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Footnotes:
[1] Eli has pointed out that the biggest hurdle is to decide what such a
     "profile" (in my terminology) should include.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-09 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-08 10:58 Making Emacs popular again with a video ndame
2020-05-08 11:32 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-09 13:28   ` Alan Third
2020-05-09 15:12     ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2020-05-09 19:53     ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-14 17:11 ndame
2020-05-14 17:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-14 19:28   ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15  3:11   ` Tim Cross
2020-05-15  3:20   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-14 22:05 ` T.V Raman
2020-05-08  8:26 Nathan Colinet
2020-05-08 10:39 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-10 20:48   ` Nathan Colinet
2020-05-08 10:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-10 16:18   ` Nathan Colinet
2020-05-08 11:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-10 20:32   ` Nathan Colinet
2020-05-11 22:59     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-09  7:50 ` Andreas Röhler
2020-05-10 20:57   ` Nathan Colinet
2020-05-12  3:12     ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-12  7:04       ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-12 13:59         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-12 14:47           ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-12 16:08           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-13  4:01         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-13  8:49           ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-14  5:14             ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-14 10:22               ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-14 10:55               ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-15  3:25                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15  7:55                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 10:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 10:43                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 11:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 19:15                     ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-15 18:41                   ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-22 19:09                   ` Ben McGinnes
     [not found]                     ` <E1jcLVP-0003SB-II@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-05-24 19:16                       ` Ben McGinnes
2020-05-14 14:13               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14  7:38             ` Tim Cross
2020-05-14  7:51               ` Andreas Röhler
2020-05-14 14:18               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-14 15:36                 ` Tim Cross
2020-05-13 10:43           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-12  8:23       ` Andreas Röhler
2020-05-13  3:55         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-13  8:18           ` Andreas Röhler
2020-05-13 10:53           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-13 16:20             ` Drew Adams

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