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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Anonymous <c4droid@foxmail.com>, Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Some ideas with Emacs
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 14:34:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmmc+7mVATXi_u5Gd5CydJQCxg5My+X38=jX3M665t4Pcw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837e3iq0ks.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> I think if we want to have an ELisp tutorial, it should be a separate
> manual.  The current ELisp manual is a reference manual, and written
> as such.

I fail to see why a reference manual can't also include examples.
I've had to search the web to understand how to use things before,
even after having carefully read the relevant parts of the elisp
manual and the doc string.  An example says a thousand words, as the
saying goes...

I think the Python documentation is very good in this regard.  Here is
one example:

https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#mapping-types-dict

To be clear, I'm not suggesting that we should mandate that we should
include examples.  But I'd suggest to optionally add them where it
makes sense, and possibly then only in the info version of the manual
(since we lack space in the print edition).

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas



  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-29 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-29  9:05 Some ideas with Emacs Anonymous
2019-11-29 11:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-11-29 11:44   ` =?gb18030?B?QW5vbnltb3Vz?=
2019-11-30  5:54     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-30  5:51   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  5:57   ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-01 10:56     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-01 11:08       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-01 13:40         ` VanL
2019-12-01 14:07           ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02  4:52             ` VanL
2019-12-02  6:12               ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  5:01                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-03 15:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 16:21                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03 17:35                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 17:59                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 19:51                         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03 19:32                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03 19:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 23:08                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-04  3:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 18:29                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-04  8:39                     ` VanL
2019-12-03 23:12                   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-05  4:41                     ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-06  6:51                       ` VanL
2019-12-06 20:13                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 23:58                           ` VanL
2019-12-02  5:41           ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-02 12:53             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 18:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 20:57                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 21:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 22:13                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-02 22:41                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-02 23:04                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  0:20                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-03 23:26                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03  8:37                           ` VanL
2019-12-03 10:14                             ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-03 11:14                               ` VanL
2019-12-05  4:44                               ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-05  7:30                                 ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-12-06  4:11                                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-07  2:21                                     ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-12-08  5:06                                     ` Librepay Richard Stallman
2019-12-08 12:10                                       ` Librepay VanL
2019-12-03  5:03                         ` Some ideas with Emacs Richard Stallman
2019-12-03  4:58               ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-04  0:37                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-05  4:41                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-11 19:37                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2020-06-03  4:25                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-29 11:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-29 11:59   ` Anonymous
2019-11-29 12:31   ` Emacs: the Editor for the Next Forty Years (was Re: Some ideas with Emacs) Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-29 13:22   ` Some ideas with Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 13:34     ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2019-11-29 13:56       ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-11-29 14:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 14:26         ` Anonymous
2019-11-30  3:51         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-12-01  3:14         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-29 15:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 18:58         ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 19:13           ` Adding examples in the doc (was: Some ideas with Emacs) Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 19:30             ` Yuan Fu
2019-11-29 20:03             ` Adding examples in the doc Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 19:32           ` Some ideas with Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 20:09             ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 20:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-29 20:25                 ` Michael Albinus
2019-11-29 20:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01  6:25                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  7:35                     ` Eduardo Ochs
2019-12-01 10:21                     ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01  6:19             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-11-29 21:42           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-11-30  0:12             ` João Távora
2019-12-01  6:48               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 17:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30  0:44             ` Yuan Fu
2019-11-30  4:00               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-30  7:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30  7:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01  6:51               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 18:25                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01 19:44               ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-01 20:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 21:35                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02  3:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02  4:17                       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02  4:48                         ` Yuan Fu
2019-12-02  4:53                           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-02 15:57                       ` Michael Albinus
2019-12-01 22:20                   ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-12-01 22:46                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:46             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  3:21           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:04         ` Richard Stallman
2019-12-01  6:15           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  6:05     ` Richard Stallman
2019-11-29 15:43   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-29 16:04     ` Robert Pluim
2019-11-30 11:21   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-01  2:41     ` VanL
2019-12-01 18:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-01 18:36       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs development discussions.
2019-12-03  6:07 ` Ag Ibragimov
2019-12-06 18:30   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 19:18     ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-06 20:14       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-06 21:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-06 21:26         ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-12-07  2:13     ` Ag Ibragimov
2019-12-07  3:14       ` Drew Adams
2019-12-10 20:55       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-12-11  4:21         ` VanL

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