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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: native-comp-async-report-warnings-errors default value
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 21:11:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkm=NouBfRHwBg4KhkXZCB5oE9k=-qkMNjE2QwUzxFcFqJw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83v90694ka.fsf@gnu.org>

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 11:27:45 -0800
>> Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> Also, can we tell what is an init file and what is a package?
>
> Emacs knows when it loads the init file.  We could disable warnings
> during that load, perhaps.

That works until you require some package from there, I think.  In any
case, that would need someone to step up to write that code, and it
sounds a whole deal more complicated than just flipping
native-comp-async-report-warnings-errors to nil.

And even then, it won't fix the issue completely.

Please see the attached file with just the warnings I get from starting
Emacs with current master and my init file.  I disabled compiling my
init files, so this is just what I get from third-party packages.  Not
all of them though, as some of them aren't yet loaded -- I will have fun
with a *Warning* buffer popping up in the middle of doing something else
every now and then for the next week or more.

Some of these packages haven't seen updates in years, so I have little
confidence that these warnings will suddenly be fixed in time for Emacs
28.1, even if I did spend a day or two going through and reporting bugs
for all of them.  In some cases, I already have open pull requests that
have seen no action or reply in over a year (!).  And then remains, of
course, the many thousands packages that neither I or anyone else on
this list use.

I am all for showing warnings visibly, but this is an overly intrusive
way to do it, as is evidenced by the many complaints we've seen about it
so far.  In conclusion, I insist that we would do well to flip the
default of native-comp-async-report-warnings-errors to `silent' or nil
for the second Emacs 28 pretest.

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Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-14 11:23 native-comp-async-report-warnings-errors default value Robert Pluim
2021-10-14 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14 11:43   ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-14 11:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14 14:48       ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-14 15:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14 16:42           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 16:47             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-15  8:51           ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-14 12:07     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 12:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02 17:03     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-02 17:10       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-02 17:14         ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-02 21:15           ` T.V Raman
2021-12-02 18:23       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-02 19:27         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-02 19:42           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-06 20:11             ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-12-06 20:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-07  7:51                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-07  9:37                   ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-07  9:42                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-07  9:54                       ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-07 12:38                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-07 14:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-07 16:54                             ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-07 17:16                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08  9:19                                 ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-08 13:23                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 13:46                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-07 13:24                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-07 14:05                       ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-07 14:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-07 14:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-07 20:20                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-17 18:14                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-17 19:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17 19:27                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-17 19:36                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-17 20:07                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-17 20:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17 20:53                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-17 21:20                             ` Colin Baxter 😺
2021-12-17 22:01                             ` Ken Brown
2021-12-18  0:48                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-18 14:38                                 ` Ken Brown
2021-12-18 16:58                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-18 20:51                                     ` Ken Brown
2021-12-17 22:10                             ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2021-12-17 21:10                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-18  0:24                         ` Po Lu
2021-12-20  8:29                         ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-24  1:01                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-24  1:34                             ` T.V Raman
2021-12-24  9:53                             ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-25  0:05                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 10:53                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-28  1:59                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-30  9:37                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2022-01-08  2:29                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-02 21:14       ` T.V Raman
2021-12-03  6:50         ` Eli Zaretskii

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