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From: Samuel El-Borai <samuel.elborai@gmail.com>
To: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: RFC - cleaning up /etc
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:09:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACivhyRhwqRkRRHUBCQe_ynj+cAAF3kGg0ORnA2yHqon5h710A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140109140226.57D6C38085A@snark.thyrsus.com>

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I don't know if it's The True Probleme that, if solved will bring to emacs
a whole new batch of serious developers ready to spend their life to
improve it.
I don't think it is the case.

But I'm with you on this issue. It's would be great to leave the jokes
outside the "real" data.


2014/1/9 Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com>

> This is an issue completely orthogonal to the git transition, but
> also motivated by my concern that the Emacs codebase and project raise
> needless barriers to contribution.
>
> /etc is a mess.  Over the years it's become a dumping ground for
> miscellany.  There are no fewer that four different files of
> miscellaneous jokes! And a cookie recipe! And...stuff.
>
> I think this matters because newbies who try to browse it get lost.
> Important things like the GNU Manifesto (yes, I agree it should
> be treated as important despite my well-known disagreements with it)
> are half-submerged in trivia, clutter, and files that only programs
> rather than humans care about.
>
> I propose to fix this with a reorganization.  /etc should be the data
> directory for files used by Lisp and programs in the suite.  The files
> meant exclusively for human browsing - the jokes, the cookie recipe,
> the Manifesto, the hacking guides - should move to a new directory
> designated for such content.
>
> That directory should have a proper README of it own mapping the
> content, so  newbies can quickly grasp what is there and what they
> might want to look at.
>
> Discuss.
> --
>                 <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
>
> "The power to tax involves the power to destroy;...the power to
> destroy may defeat and render useless the power to create...."
>         -- Chief Justice John Marshall, 1819.
>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-09 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-09 14:02 RFC - cleaning up /etc Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-09 14:48 ` Samuel El-Borai
2014-01-09 15:09 ` Samuel El-Borai [this message]
2014-01-09 16:57 ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-09 17:42   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-09 19:50     ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-10 14:35 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-10 15:51   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-11  7:15     ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-11 10:17       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-11 18:37         ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-11 10:53       ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-01-11 20:01       ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-11 20:59         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-11 21:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-11 21:27             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-12  0:07           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-01-12  0:20             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-12  0:37             ` David Kastrup
2014-01-12  3:51               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-25  1:06               ` Progress report on git-blame (was: RFC - cleaning up /etc) David Kastrup
2014-01-25  7:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-25  8:59                   ` Progress report on git-blame David Kastrup
2014-01-25  9:21                     ` martin rudalics
2014-01-25  9:27                       ` David Kastrup
2014-01-25 10:12                         ` David Kastrup
2014-02-20 18:33                           ` David Kastrup
2014-01-25 18:21                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-01-25 18:30                       ` David Kastrup
2014-01-25 18:52                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-25 18:59                         ` David Kastrup
2014-01-25 19:31                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-25 19:44                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-25 20:02                             ` David Kastrup
2014-01-25 21:45                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-26 14:40                         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2014-01-27 14:17                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-25 21:48                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-25 23:03                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-26  1:48                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-26 17:37                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-26 19:05                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-26 19:40                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-26 22:14                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-26  6:30                         ` David Kastrup
2014-01-26 15:07                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-25  8:28                 ` David Engster
2014-01-25  9:14                   ` David Kastrup
2014-01-12  3:03             ` RFC - cleaning up /etc Stefan Monnier
2014-01-12 13:46         ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-12 19:17           ` Glenn Morris

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