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From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>
Subject: Re: auth-sources and EWW
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 15:32:58 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC=50j_hOqR50+PCyGBiRBTy8_QYOCWOLymnSoTpzDQQzgrh5A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2pn6fwnla.fsf@gmail.com>

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 at 18:19, Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 07:20:24 -0700, "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>
> said:
>
>     TVR> That's the problem, witness this cae:
>
>     TVR> The name of the option is far removed from the place where the
> symptom
>     TVR> manifests itself, you'd never make the connection unless you were
> very
>     TVR> close to the code.
>
> ??? "When I use the network, this undesirable thing happens. Do I have any
> customizations with the word 'network' in them?" ->
> 'network-stream-use-client-certificates'
>
> I donʼt think the evidence supports your argument in this case.
>
> I disagree. It wasn't as if Raman was getting a network error. He observed
that auth-sources was being consulted whenever he visited an https URL. If
I had noticed that behaviour, I would have looked for EWW settings and
possibly auth-source ones and may have eventually got to the point of
checking network options, but that would not have been the first place.

However, perhaps the key point to note here is that this was the user
experience of an Emacs user who has extensive Elisp knowledge and has been
using Emacs for around 30 years. What is the user experience for a new user
or a far less experienced user?


-- 
regards,

Tim

--
Tim Cross

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-22  5:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-18 15:19 auth-sources and EWW T.V Raman
2020-09-18 15:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 15:35 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-18 15:41   ` T.V Raman
2020-09-18 16:07     ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-18 16:22       ` T.V Raman
2020-09-19  4:06         ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-19  6:26           ` Tim Cross
2020-09-19 14:20           ` T.V Raman
2020-09-21  8:17             ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-21 14:44               ` T.V Raman
2020-09-21 16:07                 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-22  5:32               ` Tim Cross [this message]

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