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From: Vladimir Kazanov <vekazanov@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Overlay mechanic improvements
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:59:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAs=0-1-1KCMOvWm7+kt8Ddiu1BZznoUpB2SVFAM_fV3zNVE8A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

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Hello everyone!

Couple of days ago I submitted a question to Stackoverflow regarding an
adequate way to handle many (thousands, that is) overlays. I wanted to know
if there are any alternatives to using overlays (which is slow) for cases
similar to mine. To make a long story short, I am building a generalized
incremental tokenizer, details can be read on Stackoverflow (
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25915908/best-way-to-save-lots-of-position-pairs-in-emacs-lisp).

It turns out that the only viable alternative to overlays is using text
properties, and text properties were not meant for the purpose. All I need
is an ability to save position pairs, the positions should survive text
insertion/deletion and there should be a way to find those pairs given a
buffer point. Overlay interface is perfect (consider overlays-at,
overlays-in and the dynamic (re-)positioning system).

After answering my question Stefan (Monnier?) mentioned that overlay
behavior can be fixed from N^2 to N*logN, which would make them
asymptotically equivalent to text properties; adding that he has no time to
implement the fix.

I believe that given some time, a few tips from experienced Emacs
developers and enough coffee I can at least try to fulfil the task. I am
not in a hurry, and wanted to get into Emacs internals anyway.

What do you think?

PS I already have my Cedet/Emacs FSF papers signed - sent a minor patch to
Cedet some time ago.

-- 
Yours sincerely,


Vladimir Kazanov


--
С уважением,

Владимир Казанов

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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-19 14:59 Vladimir Kazanov [this message]
2014-09-19 17:22 ` Overlay mechanic improvements Stefan Monnier
2014-09-20 13:19   ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 13:37     ` David Kastrup
2014-09-21 13:35       ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 13:52         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-21 21:48           ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 22:06             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-22 23:11               ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-22 23:50                 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-23 19:15                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 16:07         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 16:14           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-21 21:48             ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 22:19               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-23 19:16                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-23 19:27                   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-28 23:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-29  5:45                       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-29 20:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-30  1:21                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-30  8:43                             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-30 10:35                               ` Rasmus
2014-09-30 14:22                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-30 16:20                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-30 16:35                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-30 14:32                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-02 16:12                                 ` Uwe Brauer
2014-09-30 19:23                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-01  3:38                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-01 12:53                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-01 13:11                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-10-02  1:26                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-30  5:52                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 19:14                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-06 21:02                               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-21 16:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-21 18:42             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 18:58               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-21 20:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 21:48           ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-22  0:31             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-22 23:11               ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 15:56     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-20 19:49     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 13:36       ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-20  8:08   ` Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-20 13:21     ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 16:28       ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-20 13:21     ` Tokenizing Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 16:24       ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-20 16:40         ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-20 20:16           ` Tokenizing Eric Ludlam
2014-09-20 20:35             ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-21 15:13             ` parsing (was tokenizing) Stephen Leake
2014-09-20 16:36       ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-20 19:55         ` Tokenizing Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 15:35           ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-21 16:43             ` Tokenizing Stefan Monnier
2014-09-22 14:05               ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-21 13:35         ` Tokenizing Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 14:24           ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-21 15:32         ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-21 16:42           ` Tokenizing Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 18:55           ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-21 22:01             ` Tokenizing Daniel Colascione
2014-09-22 10:21               ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-22 13:55                 ` Tokenizing Daniel Colascione
2014-09-22 14:02               ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-22 14:14                 ` Tokenizing Daniel Colascione
2014-09-22 13:15             ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake

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