From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Overlay mechanic improvements
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:35:20 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <838ul1kqwn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871tqtjd1l.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:20:06 +0200
>
> Since preview-latex is trivial to install via ELPA (as it's included in
> AUCTeX), I am somewhat at a loss figuring out what point people are
> trying to make by stating that they are not going to bother looking at
> it, preferring me to type descriptions for hours.
I doubt that just installing preview-latex would give me the insight
into the issues you were alluding to, without some serious study of
the code.
> Emacs does not offer any default support for rendering images on-demand
> from source code in a buffer. The pipelines that preview-latex can be
> something like
>
> buffer -> LaTeX -> Dvips -> Ghostscript -> PNG
> buffer -> PDFLaTeX -> pdftodsc -> Ghostscript -> PNG
> buffer -> LaTeX -> Dvipng -> PNG
>
> It will also run several of those in parallel, like running
> LaTeX->Dvipng but falling back to Dvips->Ghostscript for those images
> which contain embedded PostScript. The Ghostscript pipeline will render
> the on-screen images first to make for better interactive response. In
> addition to the images, LaTeX produces geometry, baseline, source
> location and various other info (for example, default font size in order
> to match the rendering scale to the current default screen font) which
> is parsed by Emacs and used for integrating the resulting images in the
> right place and scale into the originating buffer.
>
> So there are prioritized rendering pipelines and information side paths
> that deliver information crucial for tying the image stream back into
> the proper buffer locations, with proper scale and baseline.
>
> There is other stuff like being able to paste text plus images into MIME
> mails (with the obvious loss of baseline and other formatting
> information, but for display math it is somewhat helpful), and desktop
> mode saving and restoring the images associated with a buffer.
>
> All of that is not specific to LaTeX, and Emacs does not really provide
> anything helpful for creating that kind of facility apart from the
> display feature itself and the possibility to run processes and process
> filters.
Thanks, this is the information I was missing.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-30 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-19 14:59 Overlay mechanic improvements Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-19 17:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-20 13:19 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 13:37 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-21 13:35 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 13:52 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-21 21:48 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 22:06 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-22 23:11 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-22 23:50 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-23 19:15 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 16:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 16:14 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-21 21:48 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 22:19 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-23 19:16 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-23 19:27 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-28 23:24 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-29 5:45 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-29 20:48 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-30 1:21 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-30 8:43 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-30 10:35 ` Rasmus
2014-09-30 14:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-30 16:20 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-30 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-09-30 14:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-02 16:12 ` Uwe Brauer
2014-09-30 19:23 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-01 3:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-01 12:53 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-01 13:11 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-02 1:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-30 5:52 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 19:14 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-06 21:02 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-21 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-21 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-21 20:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 21:48 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-22 0:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-22 23:11 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 15:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-20 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 13:36 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19 18:03 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 8:08 ` Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-20 13:21 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 16:28 ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-20 13:21 ` Tokenizing Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 16:24 ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-20 16:40 ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-20 20:16 ` Tokenizing Eric Ludlam
2014-09-20 20:35 ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-21 15:13 ` parsing (was tokenizing) Stephen Leake
2014-09-20 16:36 ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-20 19:55 ` Tokenizing Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 15:35 ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-21 16:43 ` Tokenizing Stefan Monnier
2014-09-22 14:05 ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-21 13:35 ` Tokenizing Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 14:24 ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-21 15:32 ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-21 16:42 ` Tokenizing Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 18:55 ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-21 22:01 ` Tokenizing Daniel Colascione
2014-09-22 10:21 ` Tokenizing Vladimir Kazanov
2014-09-22 13:55 ` Tokenizing Daniel Colascione
2014-09-22 14:02 ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
2014-09-22 14:14 ` Tokenizing Daniel Colascione
2014-09-22 13:15 ` Tokenizing Stephen Leake
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