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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, arstoffel@gmail.com,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Buffer-local process environments
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 17:27:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB4977BC02912D4917099C527596C99@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83zgt1myf5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Aug 2021 17:33:34 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
>> Cc: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>,  michael.albinus@gmx.de,
>>   monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 16:06:19 +0200
>> 
>> > And I'm not sure I understand the rationale, and you didn't describe
>> > it.  Environment variables and PATH in particular are generally global
>> > on the entire system, so what does this feature correspond to?
>> > separate environment variables in each shell window?  Why would anyone
>> > want to do that?  And why should we make it easier by providing
>> > buffer-local values of those, instead of letting each Lisp program
>> > that needs it let-bind the variables instead?
>> 
>> Excuse me if I ask here, it is probably more help than contribution to this
>> discussion. Is it possible to let-bind environment variables so that a
>> subprocess inherit those? 
>
> Of course.  You let-bind process-environment, and then change the
> local value.  We have a number of places where we do that.

Ah, ok, I thought it process-environment was for entire Emacs, globally. I just
was looking at docs, I haven't seen examples in the code. Thanks.

>> (defun emacs-vision--get-date ()
>>   (let ((lang (concat "LANG=" emacs-vision-locale))
>>         (lctime (concat "LC_TIME=" emacs-vision-locale)))
>>     (with-temp-buffer
>>       (insert
>>        (shell-command-to-string
>>         (concat lang lctime " date +'%A, %B %d'")))
>>       (goto-char (- (point-max) 1))
>>       (buffer-substring-no-properties
>>        (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position)))))
>> 
>> Do I understand correctly, this patch will let me have separate process
>> environment, so I could use separate environment variables in subprocess?
>
> Yes, but that's not what you were asking about, I believe.

Now you make me confused again :). I want my process to use different env for
LANG and LC_TIME, but Emacs should continue to work with old values. Concretely
I want english date string, but my Emacs should continue to use swedish for it's
normal use.

So if I let-bind, it will be reflected only localy in that let scope, and the
subprocess will inherit that local environment too? That is what I want, and why
I went via shell command. Forgive me if I am confused. I hope what you said
above is what I want :-).



  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-28 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-29 10:56 Buffer-local process environments Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-29 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-29 12:40   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-29 12:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-29 13:06       ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-29 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-29 17:26   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-29 17:34     ` Michael Albinus
2021-04-30  7:29       ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-30  7:48         ` Michael Albinus
2021-04-30 15:19           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-30 15:51             ` Michael Albinus
2021-05-02  6:13               ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-08 17:51                 ` Michael Albinus
2021-05-09  5:06                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-09 16:38                     ` Michael Albinus
2021-08-28 12:28                       ` [PATCH] " Augusto Stoffel
2021-08-28 12:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28 12:55                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-01 10:42                             ` Stephen Leake
2021-09-01 10:56                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-01 22:38                                 ` Stephen Leake
2021-09-02  7:14                                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-06 15:17                                     ` Stephen Leake
2021-08-28 14:06                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28 14:33                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28 15:27                               ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2021-08-28 15:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-28 16:48                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28 15:39                                 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-08-28 16:43                                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-28 12:47                         ` Michael Albinus
2021-08-28 12:59                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-08-28 13:18                             ` Michael Albinus
2021-08-28 13:54                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-08-28 14:05                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-28 15:19                                 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-30 15:32           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-30 15:55             ` Michael Albinus
2021-04-29 15:37 ` Michael Albinus
2021-04-29 17:31   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-29 17:44     ` Michael Albinus
2021-04-30  7:00       ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-30  7:25         ` Michael Albinus
2021-05-02 13:45 ` Stephen Leake

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