From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Christian <cnngimenez@disroot.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: SachaC-news
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 21:10:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zfzazs1r.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875y1yrehf.wl-cnngimenez@disroot.org> (Christian's message of "Sat, 18 Nov 2023 17:30:36 -0300")
Christian <cnngimenez@disroot.org> writes:
> Thanks Philip!
>
> I applied the diff to this commit:
>
> https://git.sr.ht/~cngimenez/sachac-news/commit/8263dbc7982f543f673172c4a60d4bb68a48c6f6
It appears you applied my comments as well? I should have made it
clear, that my message just intended to propose some changes,
demonstrate possible alternatives and raise some questions for us to
discuss.
> Cheers!
> Christian.
>
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 04:28:35 -0300, Kaludercic wrote:
>>
>> [1 <text/plain (7bit)>]
>> Christian <cnngimenez@disroot.org> writes:
>>
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > I want to propose SachaC-news (or sachac-news.el if you like)
>> > package to be included in ELPA. Its objective is to check for
>> > Sacha Chua's news repository periodically, and to show the Org
>> > file if there is a new commit with a new post in it. It has
>> > some customizations too, such as folding specific sections
>> > automatically, and desktop notifications via "notify-send". The
>> > requirement is the git program to be installed on your system.
>> > This information and its usage is at the README.org file at the
>> > package repository:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/cnngimenez/sachac-news
>> >
>> > The code has been checked with byte-compile-file, and
>> > flycheck configured with checkdoc and flycheck-package [1].
>>
>> > They do not display any warnings up to commit d00e629, but tell
>> > me if you find something to fix or any suggestions.
>>
>> I found a few things, here is a diff with some comments and suggestions:
>>
>> [2 <text/plain (7bit)>]
>> diff --git a/sachac-news.el b/sachac-news.el
>> index 8d67911..1f389b2 100644
>> --- a/sachac-news.el
>> +++ b/sachac-news.el
>> @@ -22,7 +22,6 @@
>> ;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
>> ;; along with this program. If not, see <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
>>
>> -
>> ;;; Commentary:
>>
>> ;; Check periodically for new commits on Sacha Chua's news repository.
>> @@ -58,29 +57,29 @@
>>
>> ;;; Code:
>>
>> -(provide 'sachac-news)
>> (require 'org-element)
>> (require 'org-list)
>> -(require 'cl-extra)
>> +(require 'cl-lib)
>>
>> (defgroup sachac-news nil
>> "Sacha Chua's Emacs news customizations."
>> :group 'applications)
>>
>> -(defcustom sachac-news-git-command "git"
>> +(defcustom sachac-news-git-command
>> + (eval-when-compile
>> + (require 'vc-git)
>> + vc-git-program)
>> "Path or git command name.
>>
>> Valid values are \"/usr/bin/git\" or \"git\" if it is in the current PATH."
>> - :type 'string
>> - :group 'sachac-news) ;; defcustom
>> + :type 'string) ;; defcustom
>>
>> (defcustom sachac-news-fold-category-regexp-list '()
>> "A list of regexp strings of the matching categories that should be folded.
>>
>> The function `sachac-news-fold-categories' use this variable to find
>> categories that the user wants to hide."
>> - :type '(repeat regexp)
>> - :group 'sachac-news) ;; defcustom
>> + :type '(repeat regexp)) ;; defcustom
>>
>> (defcustom sachac-news-alarm-sound-file
>> "/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/bell.oga"
>> @@ -88,8 +87,7 @@ categories that the user wants to hide."
>> If the value is nil or the file does not exists, the `ding' function is used.
>>
>> See `sachac-news-default-sound-alarm' function."
>> - :type 'file
>> - :group 'sachac-news) ;; defcustom
>> + :type 'file) ;; defcustom
>>
>> (defcustom sachac-news-alarm-sound-programs
>> '(("mpv" . "--really-quiet %s")
>> @@ -100,22 +98,20 @@ programs is founded on the system, the `ding' function will be used. The
>> first program founded is used.
>>
>> This variable is used by `sachac-news-default-sound-alarm' function."
>> - :type '(alist :key-type string :value-type string)
>> - :group 'sachac-news ) ;; defcustom
>> + :type '(alist :key-type string :value-type string)) ;; defcustom
>>
>> (defcustom sachac-news-alarm-functions-hook
>> '(sachac-news-default-notify-alarm
>> sachac-news-default-sound-alarm)
>> "The alarm functions.
>> These functions are called when there are new news."
>> - :type 'hook
>> - :group 'sachac-news ) ;; defcustom
>> + :type 'hook) ;; defcustom
>>
>> (defconst sachac-news-title-regexp
>> "^\\*\\*[[:space:]]+[[:digit:]]+-[[:digit:]]+-[[:digit:]]+[[:space:]]+Emacs news"
>> - "Regexp used to find news titles in the index.org file." ) ;; defconst
>> + "Regexp used to find news titles in the index.org file.") ;; defconst
>>
>> -(defvar sachac-news-timer-setted-time 0
>> +(defvar sachac-news-timer-setted-time 0 ;perhaps mark these as internal: sachac-news--...
>> "At what time the timer has been setted?
>> See `sachac-news-set-timer'.")
>>
>> @@ -148,66 +144,67 @@ Else, this variable contains nil.")
>>
>> If USE-INDEX-ORG is t, then load the index.org file. Else, use the current
>> buffer as if it is the index.org."
>> -
>> (if use-index-org
>> (with-temp-buffer
>> (insert-file-contents (sachac-news-git-index-org))
>> - (sachac-news-take-last-new nil) )
>> + (sachac-news-take-last-new nil))
>> (progn
>> (goto-char (point-min))
>> (search-forward-regexp sachac-news-title-regexp)
>> (let ((sachac-news-title (org-element-at-point)))
>> (buffer-substring-no-properties
>> (org-element-property :begin sachac-news-title)
>> - (org-element-property :end sachac-news-title))))) )
>> + (org-element-property :end sachac-news-title))))))
>>
>> -(defcustom sachac-news-data-directory (concat user-emacs-directory
>> - "sachac/")
>> +(defcustom sachac-news-data-directory
>> + (locate-user-emacs-file "sachac")
>> "Where is the data directory?"
>> - :type 'directory
>> - :group 'sachac-news) ;; defcustom
>> + :type 'directory) ;; defcustom
>>
>> -(defcustom sachac-news-data-file "data.el"
>> +(defcustom sachac-news-data-file "data.eld"
>> "The configuration and data file.
>> This is where the last updated date and other data is stored."
>> - :type 'file
>> - :group 'sachac-news) ;; defcustom
>> + :type 'file) ;; defcustom
>>
>> (defcustom sachac-news-git-dirname "git"
>> "The directory where the git repository should be cloned."
>> - :type 'string
>> - :group 'sachac-news)
>> + :type 'string)
>>
>> +;; She publishes the news every week around the beginning, why check
>> +;; every day?
>> (defcustom sachac-news-update-hours-wait 24
>> "The amount of hours when the git clone/pull must wait before be called.
>>
>> Default is 24 hours. Only positive values should be used."
>> - :type 'integer
>> - :group 'sachac-news ) ;; defcustom
>> + :type 'natnum
>> + :group 'sachac-news) ;; defcustom
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-dir-git ()
>> "Return the complete git path."
>> - (concat sachac-news-data-directory "/" sachac-news-git-dirname) )
>> + (expand-file-name sachac-news-git-dirname sachac-news-data-directory))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-dir-datafile ()
>> "Return the complete data file path."
>> - (concat sachac-news-data-directory "/" sachac-news-data-file) )
>> -
>> + (expand-file-name sachac-news-data-file sachac-news-data-directory))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-git-index-org ()
>> "Return the index.org path on the git directory."
>> - (concat (sachac-news-dir-git) "/emacs-news/index.org") )
>> + (expand-file-name
>> + "index.org"
>> + (expand-file-name
>> + "emacs-news"
>> + (sachac-news-dir-git))))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news--show-last-new-internal ()
>> "Show the last news.
>> This is used after the update sentinel is executed.
>> See `sachac-news-show-last-new'."
>> - (let ((str (sachac-news-take-last-new t)))
>> + (let ((str (sachac-news-take-last-new t))) ;unused!
>> (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create "*last-news*")
>> (org-mode)
>>
>> - (delete-region (point-min) (point-max))
>> - (insert str)
>> + (erase-buffer)
>> + (insert "foo")
>>
>> (goto-char (point-min))
>>
>> @@ -217,7 +214,7 @@ See `sachac-news-show-last-new'."
>> (sachac-news-update-last-saved-title)
>> (sachac-news-fold-categories))
>>
>> - (display-buffer (current-buffer)))) )
>> + (display-buffer (current-buffer)))))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-show-last-new-if-new ()
>> "Show the last new if there is a new title.
>> @@ -241,16 +238,12 @@ see `sachac-news-update-hours-wait' variable."
>> #'sachac-news--show-last-new-internal
>> #'sachac-news--show-last-new-internal))
>>
>> -;;
>> -;; --------------------
>> -;; Last saved title
>> -;;
>> +;;; Last saved title
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-update-last-saved-title ()
>> "Save the last title into the data file."
>> -
>> (setq sachac-news-last-saved-title (sachac-news-get-last-title))
>> - (sachac-news-save-data) )
>> + (sachac-news-save-data))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-get-last-title (&optional use-current-buffer)
>> "Get the first title founded in the current buffer.
>> @@ -264,7 +257,7 @@ the last title. Else, if t, use the current buffer, but remember to call
>> nil t)
>> (with-temp-buffer
>> (insert (sachac-news-take-last-new t))
>> - (sachac-news-get-last-title t))) )
>> + (sachac-news-get-last-title t))))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-is-there-new-title-p (&optional use-current-buffer)
>> "According to the last save, return t when a new post is found.
>> @@ -284,12 +277,9 @@ last news buffer. Else, open the index.org and retrieve the last news."
>>
>> (or (null sachac-news-last-saved-title)
>> (not (string-equal last-title
>> - sachac-news-last-saved-title)))) )
>> + sachac-news-last-saved-title)))))
>>
>> -;;
>> -;; --------------------
>> -;; Data or config. load/save
>> -;;
>> +;;; Data or config. load/save
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-load-data ()
>> "Update variables which values are in the configuration file.
>> @@ -305,7 +295,7 @@ important variables."
>> (setq sachac-news-last-saved-title
>> (alist-get 'last-saved-title expr))
>> ;; Return the expression loaded
>> - expr))) )
>> + expr))))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-save-data ()
>> "Save some important variables into the data file.
>> @@ -313,20 +303,17 @@ These variables can be loaded again with `sachac-news-load-data'."
>> (with-temp-buffer
>> (let ((data (list (cons 'last-update sachac-news-last-update)
>> (cons 'last-saved-title sachac-news-last-saved-title))))
>> - (insert (prin1-to-string data))
>> - (write-file (sachac-news-dir-datafile))
>> - data)) )
>> + (prin1 data (current-buffer))
>> + (write-region nil nil (sachac-news-dir-datafile) nil 'silent)
>> + data)))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-load-data-if-needed ()
>> "If the data has not been loaded yet, load it."
>> (unless sachac-news-data-loaded
>> (sachac-news-load-data)
>> - (setq sachac-news-data-loaded t)) )
>> + (setq sachac-news-data-loaded t)))
>>
>> -;;
>> -;; --------------------
>> -;; Git clone/update
>> -;;
>> +;;; Git clone/update
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-update-last-update ()
>> "Update the `sachac-news-last-update' date with the current date."
>> @@ -335,6 +322,7 @@ These variables can be loaded again with `sachac-news-load-data'."
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-update-time-str ()
>> "Return a string with the last time and the amount of time left."
>> + ;; Perhaps format this in a temporary buffer, then return the buffer string?
>> (format "Waiting time: %s hours
>> -- Update --
>> Last time updated: %s
>> @@ -361,19 +349,19 @@ Time left for automatic forced update: %s %s"
>> (* sachac-news-update-hours-wait 60 60)))
>> "No timer setted")
>> (number-to-string (/ (sachac-news-get-update-time-left) 60))
>> - "minutes") )
>> + "minutes"))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-get-update-wait-seconds ()
>> "Get the `sachac-news-update-hours-wait' in seconds."
>> - (* sachac-news-update-hours-wait 60 60) )
>> + (* sachac-news-update-hours-wait 60 60))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-show-update-time ()
>> "Display the time left for the next update."
>> (interactive)
>> (sachac-news-load-data-if-needed)
>> (if sachac-news-last-update
>> - (message (sachac-news-update-time-str))
>> - (message "Git has not been called before.")) )
>> + (message "%s" (sachac-news-update-time-str))
>> + (message "Git has not been called before.")))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-get-update-time-left ()
>> "Return the seconds left for the next scheduled update.
>> @@ -384,7 +372,7 @@ been setted)."
>> (if sachac-news-timer-setted-time
>> (- (+ sachac-news-timer-setted-time (sachac-news-get-update-wait-seconds))
>> (time-convert (current-time) 'integer))
>> - 0) )
>> + 0))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-get-update-enable-time-left ()
>> "Return the seconds left for the next enabled update.
>> @@ -398,7 +386,7 @@ loaded)."
>> (if sachac-news-last-update
>> (- (+ sachac-news-last-update (sachac-news-get-update-wait-seconds))
>> (time-convert (current-time) 'integer))
>> - 0) )
>> + 0))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-get-update-time-elapsed ()
>> "Return the seconds elapsed since the last update.
>> @@ -408,19 +396,19 @@ Return the numbre of seconds after the maximum wait + 1 if
>> (if sachac-news-last-update
>> (- (time-convert (current-time) 'integer)
>> sachac-news-last-update)
>> - (+ (sachac-news-get-update-wait-seconds) 1)) )
>> + (+ (sachac-news-get-update-wait-seconds) 1)))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-is-time-for-update-p ()
>> "Check if a day has passed since the last update."
>> (if sachac-news-last-update
>> (>= (sachac-news-get-update-time-elapsed)
>> - (sachac-news-get-update-wait-seconds) )
>> - t) )
>> + (sachac-news-get-update-wait-seconds))
>> + t))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-create-dirs ()
>> "Create the needed directories to save data and the repository."
>> (make-directory sachac-news-data-directory t)
>> - (make-directory (sachac-news-dir-git) t) )
>> + (make-directory (sachac-news-dir-git) t))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news--git-sentinel (_process event)
>> "Git sentinel.
>> @@ -454,19 +442,19 @@ FUNC-CALL-AFTER is a function called after the git process endend successfully."
>> (when func-call-after
>> (add-hook 'sachac-news--git-hook func-call-after))
>> (setq sachac-news--git-process
>> - (if (file-exists-p (sachac-news-git-index-org))
>> - (start-process-shell-command "sachac-news-git-pull"
>> + (let ((default-directory (expand-file-name "emacs-news" (sachac-news-dir-git))))
>> + ;; I am not sure what the point is there, but I suspect
>> + ;; there should be a better way to do this using timers
>> + ;; and vc-git.
>> + (if (file-exists-p (sachac-news-git-index-org))
>> + (start-process-shell-command "sachac-news-git-pull"
>> + "*sachac-news-git*"
>> + (concat "sleep 60 ; " git-program " pull"))
>> + (start-process-shell-command "sachac-news-git-clone"
>> "*sachac-news-git*"
>> - (concat
>> - "cd " (sachac-news-dir-git) "/emacs-news ; sleep 60 ; "
>> - git-program
>> - " pull"))
>> - (start-process-shell-command "sachac-news-git-clone"
>> - "*sachac-news-git*"
>> - (concat
>> - "cd " (sachac-news-dir-git) "; sleep 60 ; "
>> - git-program " clone https://github.com/sachac/emacs-news.git"))))
>> - (set-process-sentinel sachac-news--git-process #'sachac-news--git-sentinel)) )
>> + (concat "sleep 60 ; " git-program " clone \
>> +https://github.com/sachac/emacs-news.git")))))
>> + (set-process-sentinel sachac-news--git-process #'sachac-news--git-sentinel)))
>>
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-update-git (&optional force-update
>> @@ -501,11 +489,11 @@ pull/clone."
>> (when callback-if-no-update
>> (funcall callback-if-no-update))))
>> ;; Git program not founded
>> - (message "%s %s\n%s\n%s"
>> - "The Git program has not been founded!"
>> - "SachaC-news cannot download news without it!"
>> - "Please install it in our system or customize the variable:"
>> - "M-x customize-option sachac-news-git-command"))) )
>> + (message (substitute-command-keys
>> + "The Git program has not been founded! \
>> +SachaC-news cannot download news without it!
>> +Please install it in our system or customize the variable: )
>> +\\[customize-option] sachac-news-git-command")))))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-open-index-file ()
>> "Open the index.org file from the local repository.
>> @@ -519,15 +507,10 @@ how the update is done."
>> (sachac-news-update-git)
>> (if (file-exists-p (sachac-news-git-index-org))
>> (find-file (sachac-news-git-index-org))
>> - (message "%s\n%s"
>> - "Index file not found! Did something wrong happen?"
>> - "See `sachac-news-update-git'.")) )
>> + (message "Index file not found! Did something wrong happen?
>> +See `sachac-news-update-git'.")))
>>
>> -
>> -;;
>> -;; --------------------
>> -;; Folding categories
>> -;;
>> +;;; Folding categories
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-find-all-categories (category-regexps &optional org-element)
>> "Match paragraph with the CATEGORY-REGEXPS regexp.
>> @@ -554,7 +537,7 @@ Returns a list of org-element of type \\'item found in the index.org."
>> (string-match-p category element))
>> category-regexps))
>>
>> - parent)))) )
>> + parent)))))
>>
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-fold-all-items (item-list)
>> @@ -582,12 +565,9 @@ This function works on any Org file, even at the Emacs news' index.org."
>> (let ((category-list (if category-regexp-list category-regexp-list
>> sachac-news-fold-category-regexp-list)))
>> (sachac-news-fold-all-items
>> - (sachac-news-find-all-categories category-list))) )
>> + (sachac-news-find-all-categories category-list))))
>>
>> -;;
>> -;; --------------------
>> -;; Alarm
>> -;;
>> +;;; Alarm
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-default-notify-alarm ()
>> "The default alarm.
>> @@ -596,7 +576,7 @@ Use the notify-send to send the alarm."
>> (when program
>> (shell-command (concat program
>> " --app-name=\"Emacs: SachaC-news\""
>> - " \"Check the News!\"")))) )
>> + " \"Check the News!\"")))))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-default-sound-alarm ()
>> "The default sound alarm.
>> @@ -619,17 +599,14 @@ as fallback."
>> (car program-data)
>> (split-string
>> (format (cadr program-data) sachac-news-alarm-sound-file)))
>> - (ding t))) )
>> + (ding t))))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-run-alarm-if-needed ()
>> "Run the alarm hook functions if there is a new post ."
>> (when (sachac-news-is-there-new-title-p)
>> - (run-hooks 'sachac-news-alarm-functions-hook)) )
>> + (run-hooks 'sachac-news-alarm-functions-hook)))
>>
>> -;;
>> -;; --------------------
>> -;; Timer
>> -;;
>> +;;; Timer
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-timer-function ()
>> "The function used by the timer."
>> @@ -638,7 +615,7 @@ as fallback."
>> (sachac-news-update-git t #'sachac-news-show-last-new-if-new)
>> (sachac-news-run-alarm-if-needed)
>>
>> - (sachac-news-activate-timer) )
>> + (sachac-news-activate-timer))
>>
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-activate-timer ()
>> @@ -650,9 +627,9 @@ Set the timer for executing on `sachac-news-update-hours-wait' hours."
>> (setq sachac-news-timer-setted-time (time-convert (current-time) 'integer))
>> (setq sachac-news-timer
>> (run-at-time
>> - (concat (number-to-string sachac-news-update-hours-wait) "hours")
>> - nil
>> - #'sachac-news-timer-function)) )
>> + (format "%d hours" sachac-news-update-hours-wait)
>> + nil
>> + #'sachac-news-timer-function)))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-deactivate-timer ()
>> "Stop and cancel the timer."
>> @@ -660,7 +637,7 @@ Set the timer for executing on `sachac-news-update-hours-wait' hours."
>> (when (timerp sachac-news-timer)
>> (cancel-timer sachac-news-timer)
>> (setq sachac-news-timer nil))
>> - (setq sachac-news-timer-setted-time nil) )
>> + (setq sachac-news-timer-setted-time nil))
>>
>> (defun sachac-news-timer-status ()
>> "Is the timer setted or not?
>> @@ -668,8 +645,13 @@ Report the user about the timer status."
>> (interactive)
>> (if (timerp sachac-news-timer)
>> (message "Timer is setted and running.")
>> - (message "Timer is deactivated")) )
>> + (message "Timer is deactivated")))
>> +
>> +;; Don't activate side effects while loading your package! Instruct
>> +;; the users to add this to their init.el, so that one knows what is
>> +;; going on.
>>
>> -(sachac-news-activate-timer)
>> +;; (sachac-news-activate-timer)
>>
>> +(provide 'sachac-news)
>> ;;; sachac-news.el ends here
>> [3 <text/plain (7bit)>]
>>
>> > According to http://elpa.gnu.org/, and the README.org [2] file
>> > linked there, it says to notify to this mail address as
>> > first step. Also, it mentions other steps regarding pushing the
>> > code and adding an entry on elpa-packages file. But, there is a
>> > marker above indicating "OUTDATED" [3].
>>
>> That should be addressed ^^
>>
>> > Please, could you tell me if these steps are needed?
>> > If they are not, how should I proceed?
>>
>> As soon as we sort out the above comments, I can take care of adding the
>> package for you.
>>
>> > Cheers!
>> > Christian Gimenez
>> >
>> > [1] https://github.com/purcell/flycheck-package
>> > [2] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/elpa.git/plain/README
>> > [3] The section states: "Text below this marker is OUTDATED and
>> > still needs to be reviewed/rewritten!!"
>
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>
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