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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: patch vs. overwrite in bzr
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 21:38:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wr5v5lts.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bon7co4j.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:07:08 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 19:53:53 +0200
>> 
>> You should not have to overview the dev branch, only the trunk and merge
>> regularly it in the dev branch. You would have only to review the
>> patches before applying to dev branch, but that's what you already do I
>> think. The difference is just that actually you say, yes patch is ok we
>> will apply it after feature freeze. Instead you would just have to apply 
>> if ok.
>
> Not true.  There's a difference between doing a triage and actually
> considering the patch for inclusion.  In addition, "overviewing" means
> discussing design and implementation for significant contributions.
> Development is not just patch reviews, at least not in Emacs.
You are already doing this, so it is not extra work.

>> >> I think Emacs lost a lot a new features during this process, especially
>> >> from contributors that send patches; most patches are lost or
>> >> are unusable after several months of modifications in trunk.
>> >
>> > If you use bzr or any other dVCS, you can simply put your changes on a
>> > branch or even a shelf, and then when the time comes to push them, you
>> > will have much less trouble than you think.  Modern VCSes do a very
>> > good job at merging.
>> I know this, I use patches that I can pop and push again after pulling
>> last changes upstream.
>
> Then why do you present patch-rot as a significant factor?
Most people don't want to do this and just do not contribute, so you
lose many potentials contributors.

> It isn't.
It is actually not easy to contribute to Emacs.

-- 
  Thierry
Get my Gnupg key:
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-04 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-22 13:28 Next pretest, and regressions policy Chong Yidong
2012-03-31 10:15 ` Bastien
2012-04-01  9:55   ` Bastien
2012-04-01 12:37     ` =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?=
2012-04-01 13:30       ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-01 17:09         ` Chong Yidong
2012-04-01 20:32           ` Bastien
2012-04-02  4:12             ` Chong Yidong
2012-04-01 20:32         ` Bastien
2012-04-03  8:20         ` patch vs. overwrite in bzr [was: Next pretest, and regressions policy] Roland Winkler
2012-04-03 12:36           ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-04-03 13:42             ` Bastien
2012-04-03 15:02               ` patch vs. overwrite in bzr =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?=
2012-04-03 15:03               ` David Engster
2012-04-03 16:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-03 17:40                   ` Michael Albinus
2012-04-03 15:32               ` patch vs. overwrite in bzr [was: Next pretest, and regressions policy] Stefan Monnier
2012-04-03 16:52                 ` patch vs. overwrite in bzr Glenn Morris
2012-04-03 20:50                   ` Bastien
2012-04-03 21:27                     ` Glenn Morris
2012-04-04  0:26                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-04  5:45                       ` Bastien
2012-04-04  5:51                       ` Bastien
2012-04-04  6:46                         ` Michael Albinus
2012-04-04  8:35                           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-04-04 13:20                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-04 16:39                               ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2012-04-04 16:52                               ` Paul Eggert
2012-04-04 17:09                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-04 17:53                               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-04-04 19:07                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-04 19:38                                   ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2012-04-04 20:12                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-04 13:16                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-04 17:01                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-04 18:07                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-04 19:11                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-04 20:11                                 ` David Engster
2012-04-04 22:06                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-05  3:09                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-05 13:22                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-05 15:24                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-04-05 15:57                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-05 17:10                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-04-06  7:13                                       ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-06  8:29                                         ` Bastien
2012-04-06  8:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-06  9:20                                             ` Bastien
2012-04-06  9:57                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-06 10:20                                                 ` Bastien
2012-04-06 17:26                                                   ` chad
2012-04-06 20:01                                                     ` joakim
2012-04-06 20:52                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-07  2:28                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-04-07  6:33                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-07 11:56                                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-04-07 12:10                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-07 12:56                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-04-07 13:32                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-07 13:42                                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-04-07  7:07                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2012-04-07 11:44                                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-04-06 21:10                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-04-16 10:45                                                 ` Jason Rumney
2012-04-16 16:38                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-06 16:17                                             ` Christophe Poncy
2012-04-06 16:41                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-06 17:14                                                 ` Christophe Poncy
2012-04-07  0:17                                               ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-07  0:17                                           ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-07  9:15                                             ` Bastien
2012-04-07 22:19                                               ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-09  9:39                                                 ` Bastien
2012-04-08  3:25                                               ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-08 15:52                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-04-16 22:02                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-04-06  8:43                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-04 17:12               ` patch vs. overwrite in bzr [was: Next pretest, and regressions policy] Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-05  7:13                 ` Bastien
2012-04-05 15:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-11 14:36                     ` Bastien
2012-04-04 18:01               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-04-05  7:19                 ` Bastien
2012-04-05  9:16                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-04-01 20:35       ` Next pretest, and regressions policy Bastien

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