From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
gregory@heytings.org, mattiase@acm.org, philipk@posteo.net,
silent2600@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs master + org Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2022 09:21:00 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wnbqcebn.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YumI+nNTZAIcMYvT@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 2 Aug 2022 20:28:42 +0000")
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> A rigorous program MUST now test these. This is such a horrible
> artifact that it won't get done most of the time.
[...]
> There are no safety fences of any sort. The meaning of a program using
> w and n-t-r is no longer determinate.
[...]
> That's a month in which the discussion was open only to somebody who
> reads every post in the bug list, such as yourself, or who came upon the
> discussion by chance. Others, such as me, were unaware of it. It looks
> like the decision to change the byte code interpreter has already been
> taken, and I had no chance to participate in that process.
>
> Is it really right that fundamental changes to Emacs get discussed only
> on the bug list, or in secret[*] on emacs-devel? [*]I.e. when the
> subject line is not explicit.
>
> Anyhow, I wanted to protest and I have done so. The arguments between
> the two of us here about widen and n-t-r are clearly not going anywhere,
> so I don't intend to continue them. I won't feel put out if you don't
> want to answer them.
I agree with Alan.
Is there really a slowdown associated with allowing code to widen
outside the bounds specified by redisplay long-line "optimizations"? Or
are we speculating about a hypothetical problem that doesn't exist
again?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-03 1:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-01 13:13 emacs master + org Wrong type argument: number-or-marker-p hx
2022-08-01 13:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-01 15:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-08-01 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-01 16:07 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-08-01 16:34 ` Visuwesh
2022-08-01 16:11 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-01 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-01 16:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-08-01 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-01 17:15 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-08-01 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-01 17:36 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-08-01 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-01 18:06 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-01 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-01 19:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-01 18:47 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-08-01 19:16 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-01 20:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-02 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-02 18:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-02 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-02 20:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-03 1:21 ` Po Lu [this message]
2022-08-03 2:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-03 4:34 ` Po Lu
2022-08-03 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-03 12:07 ` Po Lu
2022-08-03 12:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-03 13:10 ` Po Lu
2022-08-03 13:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-04 1:04 ` Po Lu
2022-08-04 1:09 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-04 1:27 ` Po Lu
2022-08-04 6:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-03 20:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-04 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-04 6:19 ` Po Lu
2022-08-04 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-04 7:31 ` Po Lu
2022-08-04 7:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-04 8:42 ` Po Lu
2022-08-04 9:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-04 10:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-04 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-04 16:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-08-04 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-04 10:26 ` Po Lu
2022-08-04 11:33 ` Werner LEMBERG
2022-08-04 13:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-04 21:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-03 7:21 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-03 11:07 ` Po Lu
2022-08-03 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-03 15:25 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-04 1:02 ` Po Lu
2022-08-04 1:08 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-04 9:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-05 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2022-08-03 8:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-03 11:05 ` Po Lu
2022-08-03 11:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-02 8:25 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-08-02 8:43 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-02 8:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-02 8:40 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-08-01 16:36 ` Gregory Heytings
2022-08-01 16:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-08-01 17:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-08-07 15:22 ` Julien Cubizolles
2022-08-01 16:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-08-02 16:37 ` Opcode Versioning Was: " Sam Steingold
2022-08-02 22:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-04 14:59 ` Sam Steingold
2022-08-04 22:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-08-02 8:59 ` Po Lu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-08-01 13:45 Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-01 17:36 Gerd Möllmann
2022-08-01 17:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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