* Re: master 81886aeaff 1/2: Implement alternative sub-buffer support in term.el
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@ 2022-01-25 1:08 ` Po Lu
2022-01-25 6:07 ` Yuri Khan
2022-01-25 11:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu @ 2022-01-25 1:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Miha Rihtaršič
Miha Rihtaršič <miha@kamnitnik.top> writes:
> +(defcustom term-clear-full-screen-programs t
> + "Whether to clear contents of full-screen TUI programs after exit.
> +If non-nil, output of full-screen TUI programs is cleared after
> +exiting them. Note however that a minority of such programs
> +don't send an appropriate escape sequence to the terminal before
> +exiting so their output isn't cleared regardless of this option."
> + :version "29.1"
> + :type 'boolean
> + :group 'term)
Did this really have to be an incompatible change? What would hurt
about leaving the option at `nil' by default?
Also, it's not really appropriate to use the term "TUI" here, because
some people don't know what it refers to. It would be better to say
"console" instead.
Thanks.
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* Re: master 81886aeaff 1/2: Implement alternative sub-buffer support in term.el
2022-01-25 1:08 ` master 81886aeaff 1/2: Implement alternative sub-buffer support in term.el Po Lu
@ 2022-01-25 6:07 ` Yuri Khan
2022-01-25 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 6:48 ` Po Lu
2022-01-25 11:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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From: Yuri Khan @ 2022-01-25 6:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Po Lu; +Cc: Miha Rihtaršič, Emacs developers
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 08:11, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > +If non-nil, output of full-screen TUI programs is cleared after
> > +exiting them. Note however that a minority of such programs
> It would be better to say
> "console" instead.
It would not. “console programs” is a term from Windows. On GNU/Linux,
“console” is roughly synonymous with “Linux TTY” and does not
necessarily mean a graphical terminal emulator.
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* Re: master 81886aeaff 1/2: Implement alternative sub-buffer support in term.el
2022-01-25 6:07 ` Yuri Khan
@ 2022-01-25 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 6:48 ` Po Lu
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-01-25 6:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel, Yuri Khan, Po Lu; +Cc: Miha Rihtaršič, Emacs developers
On January 25, 2022 8:07:13 AM GMT+02:00, Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 at 08:11, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > +If non-nil, output of full-screen TUI programs is cleared after
> > > +exiting them. Note however that a minority of such programs
>
> > It would be better to say
> > "console" instead.
>
> It would not. “console programs” is a term from Windows. On GNU/Linux,
> “console” is roughly synonymous with “Linux TTY” and does not
> necessarily mean a graphical terminal emulator.
>
>
We do have terminology in place for those terminals, and it isn't TUI, either.
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* Re: master 81886aeaff 1/2: Implement alternative sub-buffer support in term.el
2022-01-25 6:07 ` Yuri Khan
2022-01-25 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-01-25 6:48 ` Po Lu
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu @ 2022-01-25 6:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Yuri Khan; +Cc: Miha Rihtaršič, Emacs developers
Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com> writes:
> It would not. “console programs” is a term from Windows.
Regardless of where it originated from, it's still vastly more
understandable than "TUI".
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* Re: master 81886aeaff 1/2: Implement alternative sub-buffer support in term.el
2022-01-25 1:08 ` master 81886aeaff 1/2: Implement alternative sub-buffer support in term.el Po Lu
2022-01-25 6:07 ` Yuri Khan
@ 2022-01-25 11:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25 11:53 ` Po Lu
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-01-25 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Po Lu; +Cc: Miha Rihtaršič, emacs-devel
Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:
> Did this really have to be an incompatible change? What would hurt
> about leaving the option at `nil' by default?
Most terminals behave this way (by default), so it makes sense that `M-x
term' also do that (by default).
> Also, it's not really appropriate to use the term "TUI" here, because
> some people don't know what it refers to. It would be better to say
> "console" instead.
I've now changed it to "terminal".
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* Re: master 81886aeaff 1/2: Implement alternative sub-buffer support in term.el
2022-01-25 11:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-01-25 11:53 ` Po Lu
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu @ 2022-01-25 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: emacs-devel, Miha Rihtaršič
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>> Also, it's not really appropriate to use the term "TUI" here, because
>> some people don't know what it refers to. It would be better to say
>> "console" instead.
> I've now changed it to "terminal".
Thanks.
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