package-install and Tor

package-install and Tor

[Richard Stallman]

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How can I make access to ELPA go through Tor?

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Re: package-install and Tor

[Philip Kaludercic]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
> How can I make access to ELPA go through Tor?

I believe you can use url-proxy-services and direct HTTP requests to use
your Tor daemon.

-- 
	Philip Kaludercic

Re: package-install and Tor

[Richard Stallman]

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > I believe you can use url-proxy-services and direct HTTP requests to use
  > your Tor daemon.

Could you show me how to do that?  I don't know how.
The variable's doc string presumes knowledge I don't have.

Perhaps we should add concrete documentation of how to use that variable to do precisely this.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Re: package-install and Tor

[Aleksandr Vityazev]

On 2022-04-27, 00:07 -0400, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>   > I believe you can use url-proxy-services and direct HTTP requests to use
>   > your Tor daemon.
>
> Could you show me how to do that?  I don't know how.
> The variable's doc string presumes knowledge I don't have.
>
> Perhaps we should add concrete documentation of how to use that variable to do precisely this.

Hi,

There 2 common solutions:

1. Using torsocks [1] run Emacs from terminal:

#+begin_src shell
torsocks emacs;
#+end_src

2. Using the built-in socks.el library with these settings:

#+begin_src elisp
(setq socks-server '("tor" "127.0.0.1" 9050 5))
(setq url-gateway-method 'socks)
(setq socks-username "user")
(setq socks-password "")
#+end_src

But this library has issue [2].

To use tor via http proxy, you must configure it accordingly, because
socks proxy is used by default.


[1] https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git
[2] https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=%35%33%39%34%31

-- 
Best regards,
Aleksandr Vityazev

Re: package-install and Tor

[Colin Baxter]

>>>>> Aleksandr Vityazev <avityazev@posteo.org> writes:

    > On 2022-04-27, 00:07 -0400, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
    >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider
    >> ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all
    >> enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow
    >> Snowden's example. ]]]
    >> 
    >> > I believe you can use url-proxy-services and direct HTTP
    >> requests to use > your Tor daemon.
    >> 
    >> Could you show me how to do that?  I don't know how.  The
    >> variable's doc string presumes knowledge I don't have.
    >> 
    >> Perhaps we should add concrete documentation of how to use that
    >> variable to do precisely this.

    > Hi,

    > There 2 common solutions:

    > 1. Using torsocks [1] run Emacs from terminal:

    > #+begin_src shell torsocks emacs; #+end_src


    > 2. Using the built-in socks.el library with these settings:

    > #+begin_src elisp (setq socks-server '("tor" "127.0.0.1" 9050 5))
    > (setq url-gateway-method 'socks) (setq socks-username "user")
    > (setq socks-password "") #+end_src

    > But this library has issue [2].

    > To use tor via http proxy, you must configure it accordingly,
    > because socks proxy is used by default.


    > [1] https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git [2]

git clone https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git <RET>

Cloning into 'torsocks'...
fatal: repository 'https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git/' not found

Looks like torsocks has gone. Anyone know where?

Best wishes,

Colin.

Re: package-install and Tor

[Philip Kaludercic]

Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:

>>>>>> Aleksandr Vityazev <avityazev@posteo.org> writes:
>
>     > On 2022-04-27, 00:07 -0400, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
>     >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider
>     >> ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all
>     >> enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow
>     >> Snowden's example. ]]]
>     >> 
>     >> > I believe you can use url-proxy-services and direct HTTP
>     >> requests to use > your Tor daemon.
>     >> 
>     >> Could you show me how to do that?  I don't know how.  The
>     >> variable's doc string presumes knowledge I don't have.
>     >> 
>     >> Perhaps we should add concrete documentation of how to use that
>     >> variable to do precisely this.
>
>     > Hi,
>
>     > There 2 common solutions:
>
>     > 1. Using torsocks [1] run Emacs from terminal:
>
>     > #+begin_src shell torsocks emacs; #+end_src
>
>
>     > 2. Using the built-in socks.el library with these settings:
>
>     > #+begin_src elisp (setq socks-server '("tor" "127.0.0.1" 9050 5))
>     > (setq url-gateway-method 'socks) (setq socks-username "user")
>     > (setq socks-password "") #+end_src
>
>     > But this library has issue [2].
>
>     > To use tor via http proxy, you must configure it accordingly,
>     > because socks proxy is used by default.
>
>
>     > [1] https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git [2]
>
> git clone https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git <RET>
>
> Cloning into 'torsocks'...
> fatal: repository 'https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git/' not found
>
> Looks like torsocks has gone. Anyone know where?

The URL (both website and repository) works for me:

icterid$ git clone https://git.torproject.org/torsocks.git/
Cloning into 'torsocks'...
remote: Enumerating objects: 48, done.        
remote: Counting objects: 100% (48/48), done.        
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (48/48), done.        
remote: Total 3095 (delta 20), reused 0 (delta 0)        
Receiving objects: 100% (3095/3095), 1.14 MiB | 2.76 MiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (2188/2188), done.

> Best wishes,
>
> Colin.

Re: package-install and Tor

[Colin Baxter]

>>>>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

    > Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
    >>>>>>> Aleksandr Vityazev <avityazev@posteo.org> writes:
    >> 
    >> > On 2022-04-27, 00:07 -0400, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
    >> >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please
    >> consider >> ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against
    >> all >> enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to
    >> follow >> Snowden's example. ]]]
    >> >> 
    >> >> > I believe you can use url-proxy-services and direct HTTP >>
    >> requests to use > your Tor daemon.
    >> >> 
    >> >> Could you show me how to do that?  I don't know how.  The >>
    >> variable's doc string presumes knowledge I don't have.
    >> >> 
    >> >> Perhaps we should add concrete documentation of how to use
    >> that >> variable to do precisely this.
    >> 
    >> > Hi,
    >> 
    >> > There 2 common solutions:
    >> 
    >> > 1. Using torsocks [1] run Emacs from terminal:
    >> 
    >> > #+begin_src shell torsocks emacs; #+end_src
    >> 
    >> 
    >> > 2. Using the built-in socks.el library with these settings:
    >> 
    >> > #+begin_src elisp (setq socks-server '("tor" "127.0.0.1" 9050
    >> 5)) > (setq url-gateway-method 'socks) (setq socks-username
    >> "user") > (setq socks-password "") #+end_src
    >> 
    >> > But this library has issue [2].
    >> 
    >> > To use tor via http proxy, you must configure it accordingly, >
    >> because socks proxy is used by default.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> > [1] https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git [2]
    >> 
    >> git clone https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git <RET>
    >> 
    >> Cloning into 'torsocks'...  fatal: repository
    >> 'https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git/' not found
    >> 
    >> Looks like torsocks has gone. Anyone know where?

    > The URL (both website and repository) works for me:

    > icterid$ git clone https://git.torproject.org/torsocks.git/

Indeed, thanks. Your URL isn't the one given by the OP.

Best wishes

Re: package-install and Tor

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 08:20:39 +0100, Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> said:
    >>> 'https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git/' not found
    >>> 
    >>> Looks like torsocks has gone. Anyone know where?

    >> The URL (both website and repository) works for me:

    >> icterid$ git clone https://git.torproject.org/torsocks.git/

    Colin> Indeed, thanks. Your URL isn't the one given by the OP.

The OP gave the gitweb url, which is not the same as the url you use
to clone (see the bottom of the page at the gitweb url)

Robert
-- 

Re: package-install and Tor

[Colin Baxter]

>>>>> Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

>>>>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 08:20:39 +0100, Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> said:
    >>>> 'https://gitweb.torproject.org/torsocks.git/' not found
    >>>> 
    >>>> Looks like torsocks has gone. Anyone know where?

    >>> The URL (both website and repository) works for me:

    >>> icterid$ git clone https://git.torproject.org/torsocks.git/

    Colin> Indeed, thanks. Your URL isn't the one given by the OP.

    > The OP gave the gitweb url, which is not the same as the url you
    > use to clone (see the bottom of the page at the gitweb url)

Thanks for this. Sorry for the late reply.

Best wishes,