From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Added inotify support.
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 22:28:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87txu7s31q.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4nm7l2er.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:26:33 -0400")
On 6 Oct 2012, Stefan Monnier uttered the following:
>>> If nfsd applies a modification and it's not reflected with some inotify
>>> event, I think that's a bug that the kernel developers would want to fix.
>> They don't care. If an event doesn't come through the normal VFS layers,
>> inotify won't see it, and that's that.
>
> But that's a bug in nfsd, still.
Well, yes, I think so, and you think so, but the Linux kernel hackers do
not think so :(
from userspace via the VFS: other activity might
>> Oh yes, indeed. I'm just arguing against ripping out polling and
>> replacing it with inotify, really:
>
> I have no intention to rip out polling. Rather I hope that the
> higher-level API we come up with can be implemented by any of Windows's
> low-level API, inotify, MacOSX's equvalent, or polling.
... which is what I hoped to hear. I've seen several projects rip out
polling because inotify can do anything, and end up with something that
worked worse for NFS users than what they had before. (NFSv4 could in
theory implement something like inotify, but for earlier versions,
polling is really all you could hope to do. Well, that or have some
parallel daemon inotifying on the clients and informing the server of
inotify activity, and vice versa...)
--
NULL && (void)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-06 21:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-03 22:34 [PATCH] Support for filesystem watching (inotify) Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-04 8:52 ` joakim
2011-06-04 16:40 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-04 10:43 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-04 23:36 ` [PATCH update2] " Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 5:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-05 9:48 ` [PATCH update3] " Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 7:48 ` [PATCH update2] " Jan Djärv
2011-06-05 7:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-06-05 9:49 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 15:59 ` John Yates
2011-06-05 16:14 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-06 18:56 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-06 19:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-04 11:30 ` [PATCH] " Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-04 17:13 ` [PATCH updated] " Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-04 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-04 20:10 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-06-04 23:43 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 2:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-06-05 9:22 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-06-15 20:53 ` Johan Bockgård
2011-06-16 8:52 ` Inlined cl functions -- how to learn about them Štěpán Němec
2011-06-06 15:21 ` [PATCH updated] Support for filesystem watching (inotify) Stefan Monnier
2011-06-06 16:25 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-06 17:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-06 20:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-07 16:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 18:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-07 18:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-24 0:50 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-24 10:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-24 12:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-06 13:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-06 15:54 ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-06 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-06 20:39 ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-06 19:14 ` wide-int crash [was Re: [PATCH updated] Support for filesystem watching (inotify)] Glenn Morris
2011-07-06 22:31 ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-07 19:43 ` [PATCH updated] Support for filesystem watching (inotify) Stefan Monnier
2012-09-28 13:06 ` [PATCH] Added basic file system watching support Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-09-28 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-28 16:27 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-10-01 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-01 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-01 14:09 ` [PATCH] Added inotify support Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-10-01 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-02 21:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-02 23:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-03 2:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-03 3:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 12:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-03 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-03 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 20:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-12 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-14 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 19:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-05 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-05 13:07 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-05 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-05 16:55 ` Nix
2012-10-05 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-05 17:46 ` Nix
2012-10-05 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-05 18:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-06 16:39 ` Nix
2012-10-06 17:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-06 18:51 ` Nix
2012-10-06 21:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-06 21:28 ` Nix [this message]
2012-10-07 7:38 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-07 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-07 14:54 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-07 8:24 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-07 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-07 14:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-07 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-08 7:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-08 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-14 15:52 ` Jim Meyering
2012-10-06 7:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-06 7:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-10-06 16:41 ` Nix
2012-10-07 8:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-07 14:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-03 3:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-02 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-03 17:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-10 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 14:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-10 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 12:11 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-12-11 7:43 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 16:36 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 16:46 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-12-11 20:17 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 7:54 ` [PATCH] Added basic file system watching support Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 8:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 8:19 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 8:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 8:44 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 9:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 10:38 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 10:24 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 13:17 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-12 1:09 ` Leo
2012-12-12 3:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-07 11:33 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-07 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-07 16:00 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-07 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 7:44 ` Michael Albinus
2011-06-06 15:14 ` [PATCH updated] Support for filesystem watching (inotify) Stefan Monnier
2011-06-06 16:21 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-09-18 11:50 ` [PATCH] " Leo
2012-09-26 12:15 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-09-26 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier
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