From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: ruediger@c-plusplus.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, sdl.web@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Added basic file system watching support.
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:24:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a9tk6g49.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ehix9bcs.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:39:15 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> In inotify-rm-watch I couldn't add similar lines, because file_name is
>> unknown. My proposal is either to add file_name as first argument of
>> inotify-rm-watch, or to declare WATCH-DESCRIPTOR as a cons cell, which
>> car is always the file name.
>
> IMO, this design is wrong. Tramp is just one more back-end for this
> feature, in addition to two others: inotify and w32notify. So I think
> Tramp handlers should be called from a higher-level code, one that
> calls whichever back-end is appropriate. Otherwise, we will need to
> implement the Tramp support twice, in 2 different sets of primitives.
Maybe. But this would require a common understanding of the API between
all involved backends.
Honestly, I don't plan Tramp handlers for w32notify-add-watch and
w32notify-rm-watch. I wouldn't know how to implement, neither if the
local host runs MS Windows, nor if the remote host runs MS Windows. At
least this thread does not exist :-)
For me, it would be sufficient to regard Tramp handlers as an extension
to inotify-add-watch and inotify-rm-watch, and not as a third backend in
parallel to two others.
> IOW, this feature is not really ready for Tramp-ization, or for
> user-land in general. Stefan wanted people to experiment with this
> and gather experience, before we know enough to discuss how to make it
> user- and Lisp-friendly.
It was never planned for Tramp; as I said I'm curious. And we got what
Stefan has asked for: "people to experiment with this and gather
experience".
Best regards, Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-11 10:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-03 22:34 [PATCH] Support for filesystem watching (inotify) Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-04 8:52 ` joakim
2011-06-04 16:40 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-04 10:43 ` Jan Djärv
2011-06-04 23:36 ` [PATCH update2] " Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 5:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-05 9:48 ` [PATCH update3] " Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 7:48 ` [PATCH update2] " Jan Djärv
2011-06-05 7:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-06-05 9:49 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 15:59 ` John Yates
2011-06-05 16:14 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-06 18:56 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-06 19:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-04 11:30 ` [PATCH] " Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-04 17:13 ` [PATCH updated] " Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-04 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-04 20:10 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-06-04 23:43 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-05 2:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-06-05 9:22 ` Štěpán Němec
2011-06-15 20:53 ` Johan Bockgård
2011-06-16 8:52 ` Inlined cl functions -- how to learn about them Štěpán Němec
2011-06-06 15:21 ` [PATCH updated] Support for filesystem watching (inotify) Stefan Monnier
2011-06-06 16:25 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-06 17:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-06 20:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 14:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-07 16:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-07 18:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-07 18:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-24 0:50 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2011-06-24 10:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-24 12:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-06 13:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-06 15:54 ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-06 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-06 20:39 ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-06 19:14 ` wide-int crash [was Re: [PATCH updated] Support for filesystem watching (inotify)] Glenn Morris
2011-07-06 22:31 ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-07 19:43 ` [PATCH updated] Support for filesystem watching (inotify) Stefan Monnier
2012-09-28 13:06 ` [PATCH] Added basic file system watching support Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-09-28 14:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-28 16:27 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-10-01 4:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-01 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-01 14:09 ` [PATCH] Added inotify support Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-10-01 16:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-02 21:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-02 23:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-03 2:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-03 3:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 12:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-03 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-03 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 20:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-12 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-14 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-03 19:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-05 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-05 13:07 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-05 15:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-05 16:55 ` Nix
2012-10-05 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-05 17:46 ` Nix
2012-10-05 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-05 18:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-06 16:39 ` Nix
2012-10-06 17:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-06 18:51 ` Nix
2012-10-06 21:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-06 21:28 ` Nix
2012-10-07 7:38 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-07 13:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-07 14:54 ` Achim Gratz
2012-10-07 8:24 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-07 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-07 14:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-10-07 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-08 7:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-08 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-10-14 15:52 ` Jim Meyering
2012-10-06 7:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-06 7:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2012-10-06 16:41 ` Nix
2012-10-07 8:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-10-07 14:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-10-03 3:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-02 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-03 17:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-10 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 14:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-10 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-10 12:11 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-12-11 7:43 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 16:36 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 16:46 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-12-11 20:17 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 7:54 ` [PATCH] Added basic file system watching support Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 8:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 8:19 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 8:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 8:44 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 9:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 10:38 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 10:24 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2012-12-11 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-11 13:17 ` Michael Albinus
2012-12-11 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-12 1:09 ` Leo
2012-12-12 3:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-07 11:33 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-07 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-07 16:00 ` Michael Albinus
2013-01-07 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-08 7:44 ` Michael Albinus
2011-06-06 15:14 ` [PATCH updated] Support for filesystem watching (inotify) Stefan Monnier
2011-06-06 16:21 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-09-18 11:50 ` [PATCH] " Leo
2012-09-26 12:15 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2012-09-26 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier
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