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From: Alex Gramiak <agrambot@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using __builtin_expect (likely/unlikely macros)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 09:47:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sguic5oy.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83bm16gejn.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:23:08 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> OK, it's possible that I don't understand the exact semantics of
> __builtin_expect in these situations.
>
> The problem is that you used LIKELY like this:
>
>   if (A)
>     do_A;
>   else if (B)
>     do_B;
>   else if (C)
>     do_C;
>   else if (LIKELY (D))
>     do_D;
>   else
>     cant_happen ();
>
> Essentially, the above is a moral equivalent of a 'switch' with the
> 'default' case aborting because it "cannot happen".  In such code, the
> order of the clauses doesn't necessarily tell anything about their
> likelihood; up front, they all are equally "likely".  So using LIKELY
> only in the last one sends a wrong signal: that last condition is
> neither more nor less likely than all the others.  Actually, in some
> cases it might be _less_ likely than the preceding ones, because if I
> knew that some of these conditions happens much more frequently, I'd
> test it first.

It was my understanding that since an else if is equivalent to else { if
... }, it would only affect the last two branches. Though I could easily
be wrong here.

> Now, it's possible that the effect of __builtin_expect doesn't care
> about this issue.  The GCC manual doesn't help to figure out whether
> this is the case, because it only talks about a simple case of a
> single 'if' clause, and doesn't tell any details about what GCC is
> allowed to do when it sees __builtin_expect.  But just by looking at
> how the code looks, I immediately raised a brow.

Right, considering the confusion it would be counterproductive to use
them in this fashion. A workaround to the confusion would be to do:

  else
    {
      if (LIKELY (D))
        do_D;
      else
        cant_happen ();
    }



  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-16 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-15  0:15 Using __builtin_expect (likely/unlikely macros) Alex Gramiak
2019-04-15  1:18 ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-15  3:11   ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-15  4:41     ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-16  0:16       ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-16  2:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-16  5:33           ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-16 15:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-16 15:47               ` Alex Gramiak [this message]
2019-04-16  3:42         ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-16 13:05           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-16 15:22             ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-16 16:10               ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-16 17:54                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-16 20:50                   ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-16 21:11                     ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-16 21:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-16 21:27                     ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-04-18  8:25                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-18  8:43                         ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-04-18 13:47                         ` Andy Moreton
2019-04-18 17:27                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-18 17:56                             ` Andy Moreton
2019-04-18 19:32                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-19 13:45                         ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-19 13:58                           ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2019-04-19 14:45                             ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-19 17:33                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-19 20:53                             ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-20  0:05                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-04-20  0:42                                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-20 19:46                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-04-20 15:29                             ` Andy Moreton
2019-04-20 15:57                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-20 16:03                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-20 16:11                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-20 16:18                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-20 16:57                                       ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-20 17:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-20 19:13                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-20 16:28                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-20 18:58                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-20 19:35                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-20 22:54                                       ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-15  3:14   ` John Carter

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