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From: Jeremy Bryant <jb@jeremybryant.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	 j.j.oddie@gmail.com, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
	 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	 Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li>,
	 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Incorporate package macrostep into Emacs or NonGNU ELPA?
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2024 21:50:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sf18mhfy.fsf@jeremybryant.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvil25imf1.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 01 Mar 2024 18:26:12 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> Hi Jeremy,
>
>> Which brings us to the other point suggested by Jonas - moving
>> development & maintenance of macrostep to NonGNU ELPA (on Savannah)
>> itself and archiving the previous fork.
>
> Not sure what you mean by "previous fork".
> [ BTW, I only now notice that the "upstream" is called "emacsorphanage".  ]
>
> We can set the upstream to nil and change the headers to say that
> development takes place directly in `nongnu.git`, but I'm not sure it's
> really an improvement over the status quo.

macrostep was originally written by Jonathan Oddie, at
https://github.com/joddie/macrostep
but no longer maintained.  It was forked and improved by Jonas Bernoulli
and others (inc. Stefan K.)
https://github.com/emacsorphanage/macrostep

My original request was to move the 'orphanage' repo to one of the
Savannah repos, in line with a discussion with Jonas:

> I think this is a good idea.  I've considered this myself before, but
> never got around to it.
>
> There are other people that are much more qualified to maintain this
> package, and that certainly includes the core developers.  Stefan Kangas
> (cced) has contributed to the fork before.
>
> I would like to hand of this package to someone else, preferably the
> core team.  If we decide to go down that road, that would mean adding
> a branch to elpa.git and making that the official upstream repository,
> and archiving the repository in the orphanage.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Jonas

>
>> Jonathan Oddie has kindly proposed to sign the FSF paperwork once he
>> receives it.
>
> Not sure if I understand correctly.  Is he already in the process of
> signing the paperwork, or is he waiting for someone to send him the form
> for that (in which case, I'd be happy to send it to him)?

The form has now been sent to Jonathan by Eli.

>> Given that macrostep is useful for Emacs Lisp macro development, would
>> there be interest to include in Emacs core?
>
> I don't have a strong opinion either way.

In another message on this list, Eli is in favour so I will continue
work on this, Emacs core rather than NonGNU.

>
>> If so I can volunteer to reach out to other recent contributors, beyond
>> the original author, for the same purpose?
>
> That would be awesome.
>
>     % git log elpa/macrostep | grep Author: | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
>       1 Author: Chunyang Xu <xuchunyang56@gmail.com>
>       1 Author: duianto <duianto@users.noreply.github.com>
>       1 Author: John Wiegley <johnw@newartisans.com>
>       1 Author: Jonathan Oddie <jonxfield@gmail.com>
>       1 Author: Torbjörn Norinder <torbjorn@genunix.se>
>       2 Author: Fice T <fice-t@protonmail.com>
>       2 Author: Jon Oddie <jonxfield@gmail.com>
>       2 Author: Luís Borges de Oliveira <lbo@siscog.pt>
>       2 Author: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>       3 Author: George Kettleborough <g.kettleborough@member.fsf.org>
>       4 Author: Jonathan Oddie <j.j.oddie@gmail.com>
>       4 Author: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
>      12 Author: Luís Oliveira <loliveira@common-lisp.net>
>      13 Author: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li>
>      80 Author: joddie <jonxfield@gmail.com>
>
> Of those, Luís Oliveira has signed some paperwork but not for Emacs, and
> Fice, Torbjörn, and "duianto" don't appear at all in the
> `copyright.list` so we'll need to either ask them to sign the paperwork,
> or look at their contributions (to see if they're small enough or have
> been replaced since).

I will start work on this.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-02 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87zfvl8r4e.fsf@jeremybryant.net>
     [not found] ` <874jdspsqb.fsf@bernoul.li>
2024-02-28 20:56   ` Incorporate package macrostep into Emacs or NonGNU ELPA? Jeremy Bryant via Emacs development discussions.
2024-02-28 21:16     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-02-28 23:04       ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-02-29 20:44         ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-03-01  4:15           ` Adam Porter
2024-03-01 23:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-03-02 21:50             ` Jeremy Bryant [this message]
2024-03-02 22:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-03-03  7:26                 ` Adam Porter
2024-03-03  7:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-03  7:53                     ` Adam Porter
2024-03-03  8:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-03 14:28                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-03-04 11:25                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-03-04 15:35                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-03-03 22:40                 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-03-04 12:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-11 22:47                     ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-03-02  6:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-02 21:36             ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-03-17 21:48               ` Incorporate package macrostep into Emacs core Jeremy Bryant via Emacs development discussions.
2024-03-18  9:09                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-03-18 23:03                   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-03-19  6:36                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-03-19  7:11                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-03-19  7:26                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-03-19  7:30                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-03-19  9:33                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-03-19  9:48                               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-03-19 17:03                     ` Jonathan Oddie
2024-03-19 21:57                       ` Jeremy Bryant via Emacs development discussions.
2024-03-22 20:47                         ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-03-22 20:50                           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-03-18 12:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-18 13:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-03-18 22:58                   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-03-19 12:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-18 21:19                   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-04-19  6:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-19 19:30                       ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-04-19 22:26                         ` Stefan Monnier
2024-04-20  6:07                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-20 17:14                             ` Adam Porter
2024-04-20  6:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-23 21:37                           ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-04-25 15:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-25 21:27                               ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-04-26  8:15                                 ` Eshel Yaron
2024-04-27  9:52                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-29 21:38                                   ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-05-02  9:32                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-02 22:03                                       ` Jeremy Bryant

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