From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeremy Bryant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Incorporate package macrostep into Emacs or NonGNU ELPA? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316714 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Hi Jeremy, > >> Which brings us to the other point suggested by Jonas - moving >> development & maintenance of macrostep to NonGNU ELPA (on Savannah) >> itself and archiving the previous fork. > > Not sure what you mean by "previous fork". > [ BTW, I only now notice that the "upstream" is called "emacsorphanage". = ] > > We can set the upstream to nil and change the headers to say that > development takes place directly in `nongnu.git`, but I'm not sure it's > really an improvement over the status quo. macrostep was originally written by Jonathan Oddie, at https://github.com/joddie/macrostep but no longer maintained. It was forked and improved by Jonas Bernoulli and others (inc. Stefan K.) https://github.com/emacsorphanage/macrostep My original request was to move the 'orphanage' repo to one of the Savannah repos, in line with a discussion with Jonas: > I think this is a good idea. I've considered this myself before, but > never got around to it. > > There are other people that are much more qualified to maintain this > package, and that certainly includes the core developers. Stefan Kangas > (cced) has contributed to the fork before. > > I would like to hand of this package to someone else, preferably the > core team. If we decide to go down that road, that would mean adding > a branch to elpa.git and making that the official upstream repository, > and archiving the repository in the orphanage. > > Cheers, > Jonas > >> Jonathan Oddie has kindly proposed to sign the FSF paperwork once he >> receives it. > > Not sure if I understand correctly. Is he already in the process of > signing the paperwork, or is he waiting for someone to send him the form > for that (in which case, I'd be happy to send it to him)? The form has now been sent to Jonathan by Eli. >> Given that macrostep is useful for Emacs Lisp macro development, would >> there be interest to include in Emacs core? > > I don't have a strong opinion either way. In another message on this list, Eli is in favour so I will continue work on this, Emacs core rather than NonGNU. > >> If so I can volunteer to reach out to other recent contributors, beyond >> the original author, for the same purpose? > > That would be awesome. > > % git log elpa/macrostep | grep Author: | sort | uniq -c | sort -n > 1 Author: Chunyang Xu > 1 Author: duianto > 1 Author: John Wiegley > 1 Author: Jonathan Oddie > 1 Author: Torbj=C3=B6rn Norinder > 2 Author: Fice T > 2 Author: Jon Oddie > 2 Author: Lu=C3=ADs Borges de Oliveira > 2 Author: Stefan Monnier > 3 Author: George Kettleborough > 4 Author: Jonathan Oddie > 4 Author: Stefan Kangas > 12 Author: Lu=C3=ADs Oliveira > 13 Author: Jonas Bernoulli > 80 Author: joddie > > Of those, Lu=C3=ADs Oliveira has signed some paperwork but not for Emacs,= and > Fice, Torbj=C3=B6rn, and "duianto" don't appear at all in the > `copyright.list` so we'll need to either ask them to sign the paperwork, > or look at their contributions (to see if they're small enough or have > been replaced since). I will start work on this.