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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: python.el changes in emacs-24
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:26:58 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r41bob3h.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wqb3zwid.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

David Kastrup writes:

 > At any rate, I am distrustful of any argument relying on the
 > catchiness of buzzphrases.

You mean like "Free as in speech"?

There is *nothing* but buzzphrase (an "emotionally attractive axiom",
if you prefer[1]) that distinguishes the Free Software Movement from
the Open Software Movement.  You would do well to remember that.

On the contrary, Tim's argument, while expressed in buzzword-like
terms, is well-founded in human psychology and the expertise of
marketing (without relying on the distasteful aspects of marketing).

The issue here is simply that on this list, the "economic" arguments
characteristic of open source advocacy are considered at best
incidental, and at worst harmful because they could (at least in
theory) lead to conclusions that contradict that axiom.

Footnotes: 
[1]  "We hold these truths to be self-evident."  Unfortunately,
"self-evidence" is at the root of the most extreme arguments for
applying capitalist principle to ideas, as well.  "A is A", as John
Galt would say.




  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-24  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-21  6:07 python.el changes in emacs-24 Glenn Morris
2014-07-21 14:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-07-22  6:55   ` Andreas Röhler
2014-07-23 10:54     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-07-23 14:37       ` Tim Visher
2014-07-23 14:44         ` Paul Eggert
2014-07-23 19:31           ` Tim Visher
2014-07-23 19:48             ` David Kastrup
2014-07-24  0:26               ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2014-07-24  3:15                 ` David Kastrup
2014-07-24  7:18                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-07-24  8:04                     ` David Kastrup
2014-07-24 15:49                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-07-23 20:07       ` Tom
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-07-24 17:14 Barry OReilly
2014-07-25  8:23 ` Stephen Leake
2014-08-05 13:30   ` Tim Visher
2014-08-05 13:58     ` David Kastrup
2014-08-05 22:23     ` Richard Stallman

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