From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: m43cap@yandex.com
Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>,
rms@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, bzg@gnu.org, yantar92@gmail.com,
theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:47:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0nt1whs.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zg2h65j9.fsf@yandex.com>
Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> writes:
> > Richard, what makes you believe that? Can you provide any
> > concrete examples of Texinfo constructs that would be simpler in
> > Org?
>
> Perhaps this ship sailed long ago but would removing org-mode from emacs
> core go some way towards making the choice between using texinfo or
> org-mode irrelevant? As an external package, org-mode's documentation
> could then evolve independently, as its users think best.
IMHO, the problem with sources of Org manual is not that much of a big
deal. Eli favours all the manuals to be in .texi format because it is
standard. However, the current situation is certainly not _that_
unbearable to the level where we need to consider drastic measures like
removing the whole Org from Emacs. Not even close.
The far more important discussion here is about Org as potential
replacement to Texinfo (after Org is modified to support software
manual-specific markup). I am not an expert in Texinfo, so I cannot
judge if it is a good call or not.
On Texinfo side, there might be problems existing in Texinfo that will
not exist in Org, as I recall from previous discussions. But I cannot
tell any specifics.
On Org side, Org allows fine-tuned configuration of export for each
individual export target. And generating parts of the manuals
programmatically. AFAIK, this is not easily possible in Texinfo.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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2022-09-25 2:52 Org mode and Emacs Payas Relekar
2022-09-25 6:35 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 7:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 7:47 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 8:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 8:22 ` Bastien Guerry
2022-09-25 8:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-25 19:47 ` Tim Cross
2022-09-26 6:12 ` Bastien
2022-09-26 6:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 6:57 ` Bastien
2023-08-18 17:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-18 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 18:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-18 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 19:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 9:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 9:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 9:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 10:19 ` Po Lu
2023-08-19 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 10:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 10:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 10:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-21 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21 7:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-23 2:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-23 9:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 11:01 ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 11:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 12:49 ` Po Lu
2023-08-23 17:18 ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 17:47 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-08-23 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-25 1:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-23 16:53 ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 17:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2023-08-24 11:52 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-24 17:51 ` T.V Raman
2023-08-24 17:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 18:35 ` T.V Raman
2023-08-25 1:16 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 11:45 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 1:14 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 9:04 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-25 18:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-26 10:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31 8:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 2:04 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-26 5:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-26 16:49 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-08-26 16:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 20:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-26 20:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-30 8:11 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-27 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 8:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-29 8:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-01 1:18 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-01 6:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04 22:05 ` Juergen Fenn
2023-09-05 11:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 0:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 11:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 12:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:49 ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 12:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 13:04 ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 13:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 13:33 ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 16:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 11:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 0:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 0:37 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 9:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 0:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 0:38 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-30 8:11 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-09-02 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-02 8:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-02 8:30 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-08-27 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 8:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-28 10:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 11:15 ` Yuri Khan
2023-08-28 11:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31 8:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04 1:33 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-30 8:14 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-30 8:32 ` Po Lu
2023-08-27 1:33 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-26 8:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 8:32 ` Jean Louis
2022-09-26 9:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 11:04 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-27 16:17 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-30 3:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 12:10 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-26 3:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 5:37 ` Po Lu
2022-09-26 5:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-26 6:20 ` Bastien Guerry
2022-09-26 13:58 ` T.V Raman
2022-09-26 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 6:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 6:18 ` Bastien
2022-09-26 6:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2022-06-13 5:04 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-13 5:22 ` Org mode and Emacs Werner LEMBERG
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2022-06-10 6:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
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