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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs-libnettle-libhogweed integration patch v1
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2013 17:19:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mwmmp05f.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwv1u3ymjkd.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 12:51:39 -0400 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote: 

>> This is the first cut of the Nettle integration for your review.
SM> I generally dislike adding library dependencies to Emacs, even for
SM> libraries on which we already depend transitively.  So, there has to be
SM> a very good use case for it.

SM> Currently, I don't see such a use case, so I'm not interested.

I certainly hope others see the utility of the work, especially so I can
implement OpenPGP support and avoid depending on the external GnuPG
binary for verifying package signatures.  It would also let me implement
binary signatures of Emacs data (to make sure it's not corrupted) and
true secrets (Lisp data strings that can't be decoded without the right
key).  But I've stated all this already, so it's unfortunate that I have
to restate and defend it.

Meanwhile I will try to finish the patch, but it's discouraging to have
to argue for basic security in Emacs for years and to spend significant
time writing code that will hang in limbo and may need to be
significantly rebased by the time it's accepted (if ever).

SM> Implementing an FFI would of course make it unnecessary for you (or
SM> anyone else) to convince me first, so I encourage you to work on the FFI
SM> as a first step.

Well, sure, I'd love to, if I knew anything about the topic.  I can help
document and test things, and maybe review some of the code.  My primary
concern is that I have to redo a significant amount of work by the time
the Nettle patch is accepted, so it would have been nice to state your
opposal earlier.  I certainly stated my intentions clearly.

Thanks
Ted




  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-06 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-06  9:15 GNU Emacs-libnettle-libhogweed integration patch v1 Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-06  9:58 ` bignum support in Emacs with libgmp (was: GNU Emacs-libnettle-libhogweed integration patch v1) Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-06 16:09 ` GNU Emacs-libnettle-libhogweed integration patch v1 Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-06 21:07   ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-06 16:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-06 16:58   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-06 21:19   ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2013-10-07  4:02     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-07 11:41       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-07 22:03         ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-07 22:58           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-07 23:43             ` Emacs crypto use cases (was: GNU Emacs-libnettle-libhogweed integration patch v1) Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-08  3:02               ` Emacs crypto use cases Stefan Monnier
2013-10-08 10:33                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-08 13:17                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-08 16:35                   ` DSO-style FFI (was: Emacs crypto use cases) Stefan Monnier
2013-10-08 17:32                     ` DSO-style FFI Tom Tromey
2013-10-08 19:42                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-08 20:43                         ` Tom Tromey
2013-10-09 23:21                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-10  8:09                             ` Andreas Schwab
2013-10-08 20:47                         ` Davis Herring
2013-10-09 22:26                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-09 23:52                             ` Davis Herring
2013-10-10  1:25                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-10  4:36                                 ` DSO-style DSOs (this is NOT an FFI!) Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-09  1:48                       ` DSO-style FFI Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-09  2:40                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-12 15:34                         ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2013-10-12 18:55                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-18 13:31                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-19 14:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-19 15:08                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-19 17:33                               ` Andy Moreton
2013-10-19 19:44                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-10-12 23:36                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-08 19:50                     ` Ted Zlatanov

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