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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to opt out of curly-quote spamming altogether?
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:25:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k2skq9ja.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c58dc562-7658-4425-94ec-4666ec07f851@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:44:19 -0700 (PDT)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> The proper representation in Unicode is the use of the English
>> ‘quote marks’: those are the proper characters for the glyphs TeX
>> and Texinfo use for text fonts in the slots for ` and '.
>> Consequently, it is quite correct that those are the output for
>> the preformatted Info pages.
>
> See above.  It's not about translating ` and '.  Imagine that those
> are not used in the input to start with, i.e., that we used other
> markup to distinguish inline code, URLs etc.
>
> That curly quotes are "proper representations in Unicode" of ` and '
> is irrelevant.  We should not be asking how to represent ` and ',
> but how to demark things like inline code fragments in a structural
> layer and how to present them in a presentation layer.
>
> Besides which, the "proper representation" of ` and ' in Unicode
> is ` and '.  They are first-class Unicode citizens.

What about “those are the proper characters for the glyphs TeX and
Texinfo use for text fonts in the slots for ` and '” did you not
understand?

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-25  4:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<c1f42565-e538-49e6-b246-07e43dab673a@default>
     [not found] ` <<834mjoha4r.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-08-24 17:57   ` How to opt out of curly-quote spamming altogether? Drew Adams
2015-08-24 18:05     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-24 18:36     ` David Kastrup
2015-08-24 21:44       ` Drew Adams
2015-08-25  4:25         ` David Kastrup [this message]
     [not found] <<a4c77735-a9de-400e-88f2-243c66e24836@default>
     [not found] ` <<83fv38hfsx.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-08-24 16:34   ` Drew Adams
2015-08-24 16:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-24 17:09     ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-24 17:29       ` Drew Adams
2015-08-24 18:44         ` Paul Eggert
     [not found]   ` <<c8408881-dddb-4661-9e7f-6ec42d9bf5fa@default>
     [not found]     ` <<837fokhby1.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-08-24 17:06       ` Drew Adams
2015-08-24 17:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-24  4:16 Drew Adams
2015-08-24 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-24 15:26 ` Paul Eggert
2015-08-24 17:06   ` Drew Adams

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