From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 17:54:33 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87illa5uli.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YzFjsYshT/8BDAwi@protected.localdomain>
Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> * Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> [2022-09-26 09:35]:
>> I am now more concerned about Org contributors. I am not sure if we have
>> a luxury to push our contributors into GNU project by forcing them to
>> learn texinfo in addition to Org (note that I do not say that we should
>> not encourage people to contribute to GNU; just that we should not
>> discourage people from becoming Org contributors in the first
>> place).
>
> You may have contributors write it in Org and then convert Org to
> texinfo by using pandoc:
>
> pandoc -f org -t texinfo your-file.org
This is almost what we do now. Org contributors write in Org, and then we
use Org itself to convert to texinfo. Org files serve as the source
files.
What we are discussing here is whether Org should switch from Org
sources back to texinfo sources used in Emacs.
1. Switching to texinfo will improve Emacs coherence and potentially
increase the pool of Emacs contributors familiar with texinfo (by
pulling some of the Org contributors)
2. On the other hand, switching from Org to texinfo sources on Org side
will require Org contributors to learn texinfo, which they do not
really need now.
3. Yet, switching from Org to texinfo will allow Emacs contributors to
send patches in familiar texinfo format to Org.
From the perspective of Emacs, using texinfo sources is a good thing.
From the perspective of Org, it is not that obvious.
Hence this discussion.
Note that we are now discussing this on emacs-devel and do not yet have
inputs from many Org users/contributors. However, we (Org devs) can get
inputs from Emacs devs, which is part of the information we need to see
what we want to do about Org vs. Texinfo sources.
--
Ihor Radchenko,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at https://orgmode.org/.
Support Org development at https://liberapay.com/org-mode,
or support my work at https://liberapay.com/yantar92
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2022-09-25 2:52 Org mode and Emacs Payas Relekar
2022-09-25 6:35 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 7:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 7:47 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 8:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 8:22 ` Bastien Guerry
2022-09-25 8:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-25 19:47 ` Tim Cross
2022-09-26 6:12 ` Bastien
2022-09-26 6:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 6:57 ` Bastien
2023-08-18 17:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-18 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 18:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-18 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 19:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 9:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 9:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 9:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 10:19 ` Po Lu
2023-08-19 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 10:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 10:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 10:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-21 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21 7:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-23 2:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-23 9:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 11:01 ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 11:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 12:49 ` Po Lu
2023-08-23 17:18 ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 17:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-25 1:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-23 16:53 ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 17:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2023-08-24 11:52 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-24 17:51 ` T.V Raman
2023-08-24 17:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 18:35 ` T.V Raman
2023-08-25 1:16 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 11:45 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 1:14 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 9:04 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-25 18:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-26 10:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31 8:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 2:04 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-26 5:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-26 16:49 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-08-26 16:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 20:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-26 20:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-30 8:11 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-27 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 8:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-29 8:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-01 1:18 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-01 6:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04 22:05 ` Juergen Fenn
2023-09-05 11:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 0:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 11:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 12:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:49 ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 12:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 13:04 ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 13:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 13:33 ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 16:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 11:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 0:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 0:37 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 9:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 0:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 0:38 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-30 8:11 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-09-02 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-02 8:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-02 8:30 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-08-27 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 8:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-28 10:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 11:15 ` Yuri Khan
2023-08-28 11:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31 8:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04 1:33 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-30 8:14 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-30 8:32 ` Po Lu
2023-08-27 1:33 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-26 8:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 8:32 ` Jean Louis
2022-09-26 9:54 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2022-09-26 11:04 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-27 16:17 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-30 3:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 12:10 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-26 3:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 5:37 ` Po Lu
2022-09-26 5:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-26 6:20 ` Bastien Guerry
2022-09-26 13:58 ` T.V Raman
2022-09-26 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 6:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 6:18 ` Bastien
2022-09-26 6:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
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2022-06-13 2:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-13 5:04 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-13 5:22 ` Org mode and Emacs Werner LEMBERG
2022-06-13 5:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2022-06-05 8:38 ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-05 8:51 ` Po Lu
2022-06-05 10:26 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-05 11:15 ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-06 0:19 ` Tim Cross
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2022-06-06 13:57 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-06 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-07 6:14 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-07 16:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-07 18:14 ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Stefan Monnier
2022-06-07 18:26 ` Org mode and Emacs Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-07 18:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-07 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-07 19:38 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-06-08 6:06 ` Org mode and Emacs Visuwesh
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2022-06-09 22:31 ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Richard Stallman
2022-06-09 23:10 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-10 5:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 6:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-10 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 4:49 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-11 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 9:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2022-06-12 10:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2022-06-16 16:59 ` Org mode and Emacs Stefan Monnier
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