Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[T.V Raman]

I'd like to use hyper-i as the alternative for C-x 8. How?

I tried this:

(global-set-key         (kbd "C-; i") 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map)
and this works except that whereas
Describe-key for the various C-x 8 <chars> shows those keys to run
self-insert-command,
Describe-key on C-; i <chars> shows they run kbd-macro.



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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[Andreas Schwab]

On Nov 08 2021, T.V Raman wrote:

> I'd like to use hyper-i as the alternative for C-x 8. How?
>
> I tried this:
>
> (global-set-key         (kbd "C-; i") 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map)

You need to bind it in the key-translation-map.

Andreas.

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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[T.V Raman]

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Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:


Slightly better,  describe-key for <prefix>! now shows

>
>> I'd like to use hyper-i as the alternative for C-x 8. How?
>>
>> I tried this:
>>
>> (global-set-key         (kbd "C-; i") 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map)
>
> You need to bind it in the key-translation-map.
>
> Andreas.

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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[T.V Raman]

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"T.V Raman" <raman@google.com> writes:


Also, going through key-translation-map doesn't automatically get you
everything;
for example, the new emoji commands are available under C-x 8e -- but
the <custom-prefix>e   doesn't get the emoji commands.


> Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
>
>
> Slightly better,  describe-key for <prefix>! now shows
>
>>
>>> I'd like to use hyper-i as the alternative for C-x 8. How?
>>>
>>> I tried this:
>>>
>>> (global-set-key         (kbd "C-; i") 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map)
>>
>> You need to bind it in the key-translation-map.
>>
>> Andreas.

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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Mon, 08 Nov 2021 07:40:09 -0800, "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com> said:

    T> "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com> writes:
    T> Also, going through key-translation-map doesn't automatically get you
    T> everything;
    T> for example, the new emoji commands are available under C-x 8e -- but
    T> the <custom-prefix>e   doesn't get the emoji commands.

Thatʼs because theyʼre in the ctl-x-map for some reason. Lars, we
could move the binding code for emojis to iso-transl.el and put the
bindings in iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map?

Robert
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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[Andreas Schwab]

On Nov 08 2021, Robert Pluim wrote:

> Thatʼs because theyʼre in the ctl-x-map for some reason. Lars, we
> could move the binding code for emojis to iso-transl.el and put the
> bindings in iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map?

That would be wrong, because iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map can only contain key
translations.

Andreas.

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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

> Thatʼs because theyʼre in the ctl-x-map for some reason. Lars, we
> could move the binding code for emojis to iso-transl.el and put the
> bindings in iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map?

They're defined the same as `insert-char', which seems appropriate, I
think?  I.e.,

(define-key ctl-x-map "8\r" 'insert-char)
(define-key ctl-x-map "8e" ...


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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[T.V Raman]

The bigger question is why ctl-x-8-map goes through
key-translation-map rather than behaving like C-x 4  and friends?Lars Ingebrigtsen writes:
 > Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
 > 
 > > Thatʼs because theyʼre in the ctl-x-map for some reason. Lars, we
 > > could move the binding code for emojis to iso-transl.el and put the
 > > bindings in iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map?
 > 
 > They're defined the same as `insert-char', which seems appropriate, I
 > think?  I.e.,
 > 
 > (define-key ctl-x-map "8\r" 'insert-char)
 > (define-key ctl-x-map "8e" ...
 > 
 > 
 > -- 
 > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
 >    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

"T.V Raman" <raman@google.com> writes:

> The bigger question is why ctl-x-8-map goes through
> key-translation-map rather than behaving like C-x 4 and friends?

Hm...  it's this bit, I guess?

(define-key key-translation-map "\C-x8" iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map)

Hm...  I don't know?  Anybody?

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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

[T.V Raman]

yes, this is it -- wonder why it is so:-)

Likely legacy from way back
Lars Ingebrigtsen writes:
 > "T.V Raman" <raman@google.com> writes:
 > 
 > > The bigger question is why ctl-x-8-map goes through
 > > key-translation-map rather than behaving like C-x 4 and friends?
 > 
 > Hm...  it's this bit, I guess?
 > 
 > (define-key key-translation-map "\C-x8" iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map)
 > 
 > Hm...  I don't know?  Anybody?
 > 
 > -- 
 > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
 >    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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Re: Binding C-x 8 commands to another prefix

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  > > The bigger question is why ctl-x-8-map goes through
  > > key-translation-map rather than behaving like C-x 4 and friends?

The motive may be so that it will work inside incremental search.

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