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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal for a new mechanism for delayed stuff
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:57:35 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ehidrjkg.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pq1y46ao.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:20:31 +0100")

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>Gnus does a lot of stuff that it doesn't really know how long it'll take
>to do.  For instance, connecting to a mail server, and rendering
>complex HTML.
>
>If Gnus were to output "Connecting to foo", "sending retrieval
>commands", "waiting for foo to finish outputting" (which are usually
>done asynchronously, intermingled between many servers), Gnus would spew
>an inordinate number of messages.
>
>And sometimes the user should know what's taking so long, so that the
>user can decide what to do about it.
>
>So the ideal would be if we could say "display a message if things take
>too long".
>
>The idea I had yesterday was to make this totally general:
>
>(with-timeout-forms
>   (progn
>     (bla)
>     (bla))
>  (1.5 (message "This is sure taking a lot of time..."))
>  (10 (message "This is sure taking forever!")))
>
>A la condition-case and stuff, although here we have forms that are
>run if the main form takes too long.  So after 1.5 seconds we trigger
>the first, and after 10 we trigger the second.
>
>And perhaps it would also be possible to have a special thing in the
>timeout forms that would conclude the entire main form?  Like `return'
>or something.
>
>So it's like `with-timeout', only that it doesn't end executing the
>body.  And it would hopefully be possible to implement it such a way
>that a looping body form would also be "pre-emptible".  

I think that's a great generalization idea.  And `with-timeout' could
then be (re)implemented using `with-timeout-forms', presumably.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-25 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-25 13:20 Proposal for a new mechanism for delayed stuff Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-12-25 13:52 ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-25 19:57 ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2012-12-26 14:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-27  4:08   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-27 10:49     ` Achim Gratz
2012-12-27 14:43       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-27  9:40 ` Vitalie Spinu
2012-12-27 14:01   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-12-29  6:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-31 14:09   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-03 16:47     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-03 23:34       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-04  1:56         ` Stefan Monnier

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