From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Network security manager
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 06:46:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egsze7ko.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3tx1vjuxk.fsf@stories.gnus.org
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:23:19 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> I mean that EWW's visual indicators of identity and trust should be
>> global. Then you don't interrupt the user (they get cranky!) but show
>> them a visual indicator that something requires their attention. I can't
>> think of a better place that works in graphical and text modes and has
>> the precedent of embedded infobar-style buttons than the modeline.
LMI> Oh, I see. I misunderstood you completely; sorry. >"?
LMI> That does sound attractive... eww would put an icon into the mode line,
LMI> and then the user could click it to answer the query. A kind of "an
LMI> action is needed" thing.
Yes! I don't know how it could work well in text mode, though.
>> Furthermore, I think it would make sense to use the same indicators for
>> GnuTLS connections in general (whatever NSM handles), not just EWW. I
>> couldn't find UI recommendations for mail clients, but from experience
>> with a few they treat encryption problems as a high-priority dialog and
>> interrupt the user experience until you say "OK, trust XYZ." Which is,
>> again, not ideal for Emacs so we should find a nicer way to indicate
>> problems without interrupting.
LMI> The other connections things are usually done interactively, so just
LMI> asking the user directly is more user-friendly.
I'm kind of 50-50 on this; I see your point but also think it looks
weird as a user experience, especially that you can keep typing and
accidentally answer "always". Long-term we know we'll have all the
connections on background threads eventualy, so it's probably good to
handle that case consistently across all usage modes.
Ted
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2014-11-17 12:46 Network security manager Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 13:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-17 13:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-17 14:04 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-17 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 14:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 15:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-17 15:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-17 17:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 18:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-17 15:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 16:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-17 18:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-17 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-17 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-17 14:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-17 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 15:19 ` Stephen Leake
2014-11-17 15:24 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 15:29 ` Kelvin White
2014-11-17 15:38 ` Kelvin White
2014-11-17 18:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 18:58 ` Rob Browning
2014-11-17 19:07 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-11-18 8:52 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-18 14:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-11-17 22:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 23:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 23:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 15:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-17 23:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 14:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 14:57 ` Rasmus
2014-11-18 15:01 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 19:44 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-18 19:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 15:03 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-18 15:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 15:23 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-18 15:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-18 15:30 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 15:40 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 15:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 16:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-18 19:49 ` Achim Gratz
2014-11-18 19:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 19:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 21:17 ` David Engster
2014-11-18 21:28 ` David Engster
2014-11-18 21:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 20:47 ` N. Jackson
2014-11-18 21:07 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 21:29 ` N. Jackson
2014-11-18 21:36 ` David Engster
2014-11-18 21:55 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 22:02 ` David Engster
2014-11-19 0:05 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-18 10:12 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-11-18 15:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-18 15:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 15:58 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-18 16:15 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 16:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 16:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 17:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 17:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-18 17:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 17:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-18 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 17:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 17:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 17:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 18:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 18:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 18:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 18:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 19:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 19:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 19:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 19:24 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-18 20:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 23:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 23:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 8:37 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 11:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 11:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 11:46 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2014-11-19 21:11 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-11-19 7:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-18 20:51 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 2:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 3:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 13:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-19 13:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 14:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 15:30 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 15:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 15:47 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 15:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-19 16:12 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 16:12 ` EWW buffers Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-19 16:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 17:10 ` bug#19109: eww-setup-buffer: use set-buffer instead of switch-to-buffer Ivan Shmakov
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2014-11-23 19:35 ` mailing control@, but requesting that no replies be sent there Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-24 0:22 ` bug#19109: " Glenn Morris
2014-11-24 6:50 ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-24 7:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-24 5:00 ` bug#19109: " Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-19 22:27 ` EWW buffers Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 6:47 ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-21 12:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-19 15:56 ` Network security manager Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-19 22:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-20 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-20 23:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-11-21 11:12 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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2014-11-18 18:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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2014-11-18 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-18 18:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-18 17:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
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2014-11-18 17:44 ` Ted Zlatanov
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2014-11-30 18:09 ` Stefan Monnier
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2014-12-05 1:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
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2014-12-11 14:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-01 19:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-01 22:42 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-02 1:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-12-02 3:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-01 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-12-01 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 22:58 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-02 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-03 9:27 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-03 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-03 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 3:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2014-12-03 21:11 ` Stephen Leake
2014-12-03 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 16:07 ` Network security manager Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-17 18:58 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-17 19:37 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-17 19:49 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-11-17 20:00 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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