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From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>,
	angelo.graziosi@alice.it
Subject: Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages'
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:34:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egc9ahav.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83fuwpubpn.fsf@gnu.org>

On Thu, Feb 18 2016, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> I see no fundamental difference
> between saving the value of a defcustom and saving the list of
> packages the user decided to install.

I think the main difference is that as a user, I can decide *not* to use
Customize to set a particular defcustom. I can use a setq in my init
file instead.

My ~/.emacs.d directory is in Dropbox and is shared across three
computers. For certain reasons, not all settings are identical across
the three machines. I use Customize for those settings that are
identical, and I use setq's in my init file to handle those cases where
I want different values for a defcustom.

In the same way, I have different collections of installed packages on
each computer. If the list of installed packages is saved in
custom-set-variables, it'll get sync'ed across my three computers, but
it won't reflect the actual list of packages on each machine. (Either
that, or I'll have a bunch of conflicted copies of the file where I keep
my Customize settings.)

I can see the logic behind saving the list of user-installed packages in
custom-set-variables, but IMHO the user should have the option of
specifying a different location for saving this info. I would keep it
outside ~/.emacs.d, just as I keep `package-user-dir' outside ~/.emacs.d.


-- 
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments



  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-18 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-17  9:27 Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages' Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-17 23:05 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-18  1:04   ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-18  1:43   ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-18 16:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 17:28       ` Colin Baxter
2016-02-18 17:35         ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-18 18:06       ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-18 18:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 20:34           ` Joost Kremers [this message]
2016-02-18 21:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 21:49               ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-19  9:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19  9:47                   ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-19 13:04                   ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-19 15:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 18:29                       ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-19 18:50                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 19:05                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-02-19 20:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-21 23:56                               ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-22  0:10                                 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-22  3:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 21:00                                   ` Bastian Beischer
2016-02-19  4:18           ` alex
2016-02-19  9:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 21:15               ` alex
2016-02-20  7:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 18:25       ` Mechanisms to persist information (Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages') Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-02-18 18:54         ` Mechanisms to persist information Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-18 19:22           ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2016-02-20  2:17         ` Mechanisms to persist information (Re: Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages') John Wiegley
2016-02-20  4:44           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-02-18 18:45       ` Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages' John Wiegley
2016-02-19  4:17       ` alex
     [not found]       ` <vYxebPyde_BnqKsA6mXLVX-_dj3rDIchNBYl3O1LxNhGCR7etgi0R4ZR7de5PU1TZXk9R4YsCjNxqkoh5lBR3Q==@protonmail.com>
2016-02-19  9:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-19 22:55           ` alex
2016-02-20  8:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-05  0:40               ` alex
2016-02-18 16:19   ` raman
2016-02-18 18:55     ` Angelo Graziosi
2016-02-18 19:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-02-17  3:39 Option to not automatically customize-save-variable `package-selected-packages'? alex
2016-02-17  4:10 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-17 10:02   ` Artur Malabarba
2016-02-18 16:52     ` Aaron Ecay
2016-02-17 12:43   ` Joost Kremers
2016-02-17 10:14 ` Colin Baxter

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