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From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Better emoji support
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 08:20:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ee9jhint.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mto73mem.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2021 07:23:45 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Kévin Le Gouguec <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 21:43:17 +0200
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> > (set-fontset-font t 'emoji "Noto Color Emoji" nil 'prepend)
>> 
>> After evaluating that, it's down to:
>> 
>> > #*0©®🛝🟰🥹🧌🩻🪩🪷🫃🫗🫠🫰
>> 
>> So there's still something that overrides Noto Color Emoji for those
>> four codepoints, IIUC.
>
> If you mean these four:
>
>    ↔♠♣♥
>
> then why do you expect them to be displayed using Noto Color Emoji?

*In the long run*, when Emacs adheres fully to UTS #51, I don't expect
those to be displayed with a color font by default, since their
Emoji_Presentation property is "No".

(IIUC, ideally we'd want Emacs to display them with a color font only if
(1) users enforce it with set-fontset-font or (2) the characters are
followed by U+FE0F VARIATION SELECTOR-16)


*Right now* (as of commit 995a623594), I'd expect them to be displayed
 with Noto Color Emoji, since

(1) (char-table-range char-script-table ?↔) yields "emoji",
(2) fontset.el indiscriminately slaps "Noto Color Emoji" on the whole
    "emoji" script.

IOW my expectation comes from trying to understand what the code
currently does, not necessarily from thinking it's The Right Thing.
Sorry for being unclear.


IIUC Robert's tentative patch[1] gets us closer to The Right Thing, by
making sure (char-table-range char-script-table C) is "emoji" iff C's
Emoji_Presentation property is "Yes".


[1] <87a6k8l6pp.fsf@gmail.com>
    https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-09/msg01449.html



  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-20  6:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-10  9:19 Better emoji support Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10  9:24 ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-10  9:37   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10  9:45     ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-10  9:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12  8:27         ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-12 14:02           ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-12 15:38             ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-12 15:59               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13  7:00                 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-13  7:50                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-15 15:15                 ` Robert Pluim
2021-07-15 15:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 12:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 15:44           ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-13 16:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-13 16:36             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-09-17 13:01               ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-17 13:42                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-09-17 13:50                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-17 15:51                     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-09-17 16:43                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-17 19:34                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-09-19 18:27                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-19 19:43                             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-09-20  4:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20  6:20                                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2021-09-20  6:53                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20  8:40                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-20  9:53                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20 13:03                                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-20 13:15                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20 13:25                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20 13:50                                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-20 15:27                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20 17:32                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-20 18:54                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20 19:30                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-20 19:42                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-20 20:05                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-20 13:40                                             ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-20 13:45                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 15:58                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-09-17 16:35                     ` Daniel Martín
2021-09-17 16:52                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-17 15:39                 ` Stephen Berman
2021-09-17 16:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 16:34                     ` Stephen Berman
2021-09-17 16:58                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-17 17:05                         ` Stephen Berman
2021-09-17 17:10                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-17 17:17                             ` Stephen Berman
2021-09-17 17:37                               ` Better emoji support, " Robert Pluim
2021-09-17 17:49                                 ` Stephen Berman
2021-09-17 17:51                                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-17 18:53                                     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-17 18:58                                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-17 19:44                                         ` Stephen Berman
2021-09-17 18:53                                 ` martin rudalics
2021-09-17 16:55                     ` martin rudalics
2021-09-17 18:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-17 18:59                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-18  5:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-18  6:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-19 16:09                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-19 17:16                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-09-19 18:20                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-19 19:13                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-19 17:24                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-19 18:10                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-19 18:29                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-19 18:40                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-09-19 18:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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