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From: Andrei Kuznetsov <r12451428287@163.com>
To: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
Cc: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [SPAM UNSURE] Re: [SPAM UNSURE] Maybe we're taking a wrong approach towards tree-sitter
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 08:54:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bl6kmxj6.fsf@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86o8akog7f.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (Stephen Leake's message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:25:40 -0700")

Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org> writes:

> The "generator" and the "runtime" are two separate programs, with
> separate functions, used at different times.
>
> The generator takes the javascript language grammar file and translates
> it (thru lots of hairy computations) into code that builds a parse table
> and other data structures. The tree-sitter generator outputs that code
> in C; it might be possible to adapt it to output in elisp (the wisitoken
> generator used to output elisp, but i gave that up when I implemented
> error recover in Ada; elisp is way to slow for that).
>
> The "runtime" uses the parse table to parse text at runtime, in response
> to user actions on the buffer. To be useful in an interactive editing
> context, it must have robust error recovery. What is your error recovery
> algorithm?

Currently extremely naive.  After an error occurs, it skips productions
until it can parses without errors, and just continues from there.  I
plan to improve it somewhat in the near future.

> Are you talking about the generator or runtime here?

The runtime.  The parser generator does not seem to be astonishingly
fast, but I don't think most people will have any cause to run it very
often.

> That's the runtime. Actual time for xdisp.c, preferably compared with a
> tree-sitter parse run on the same machine, would be helpful.

I'm currently pre-occupied and unable to work on this, but I will return
with these measurements as soon as reasonably possible.

> How long does the generator take?

I did not measure that, but as most people would be loading compiled
parsers, and not running the generator, I don't think it would matter
too much.  FWIW macroexpansion of the macro `defgrammar' blocks Emacs
for a second or 2.

> This seems to imply that the runtime supports incremental parse, so it
> does not reparse the whole buffer each time; is that true?

Indeed.  I've not yet figured out a particularly good way of recording
changes though -- as of present it relies on its own versions of
self-insert-command, kill-region, et cetera.




  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-30  0:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-28  1:57 Maybe we're taking a wrong approach towards tree-sitter Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28  3:53 ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-07-28  8:23   ` Manuel Giraud
2021-07-28 11:48     ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:14         ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:31             ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 14:24             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-07-28 14:36               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-07-28 14:51               ` Daniele Nicolodi
2021-07-28 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 16:24                 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-28 16:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-29 23:12         ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-29 23:21           ` Yuan Fu
2021-07-30 18:38             ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-30  0:41           ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-30 12:06             ` Arthur Miller
2021-07-30 12:52               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-07-30 13:30                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-07-30 13:57                   ` Ergus
2021-07-30 14:52                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-07-30 13:59                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-30 15:45                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-07-30 13:32               ` Ergus
2021-07-30 15:07                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-02 22:13               ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-30 18:42             ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-30  6:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-31 12:12             ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-31 13:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-31 16:55                 ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-31 17:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 11:43   ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 11:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 12:06       ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:16           ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 12:36     ` Ergus
2021-07-28 13:07       ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:27           ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:38               ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 14:41                 ` Manuel Giraud
2021-07-28 15:15                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-28 16:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-29 23:25         ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-07-30  0:54           ` Andrei Kuznetsov [this message]
2021-07-30  3:02             ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-30 18:48             ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-28 15:12     ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-29 23:28       ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-30  0:19         ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-30 18:44           ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-07-29  4:35     ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-28 15:09 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-29 23:35   ` Stephen Leake

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