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From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Andrei Kuznetsov <r12451428287@163.com>,
	manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [SPAM UNSURE] Maybe we're taking a wrong approach towards tree-sitter
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:12:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86sfzwogsn.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pmv2twrl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:04:30 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Andrei Kuznetsov <r12451428287@163.com>
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 19:48:18 +0800
>> Cc: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr> writes:
>> 
>> > I too did not follow the tree-sitter discussion closely. But AFAIU,
>> > tree-sitter provides tools to generate a parser (in C) from a grammar.
>> 
>> If that is the case, it certainly seems grave! I don't think an Emacs
>> that requires source modifications for extending vital editing
>> functionality is a good idea.
>
> TS's code is written in plain C, and doesn't require any regeneration
> or source modifications.  Anything else is misunderstanding.

That's true for the common TS runtime, which implements the parser and
error recovery, but the code for each language, that builds the LR parse
table and some other data structures, is generated in C from a grammar
file written in javascript, and must be linked into Emacs somehow. In
addition, some languages require an "external scanner", which is more
code in C that is specific to the language.

Ideally, there would be some sort of plugin, so new languages could be
added at run-time; maybe we could add a protocol on top of emacs
modules. I don't know how Yuan is handling this now.

-- 
-- Stephe



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-29 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-28  1:57 Maybe we're taking a wrong approach towards tree-sitter Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28  3:53 ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-07-28  8:23   ` Manuel Giraud
2021-07-28 11:48     ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:14         ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:31             ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 14:24             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-07-28 14:36               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-07-28 14:51               ` Daniele Nicolodi
2021-07-28 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 16:24                 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-28 16:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-29 23:12         ` Stephen Leake [this message]
2021-07-29 23:21           ` Yuan Fu
2021-07-30 18:38             ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-30  0:41           ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-30 12:06             ` Arthur Miller
2021-07-30 12:52               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-07-30 13:30                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-07-30 13:57                   ` Ergus
2021-07-30 14:52                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-07-30 13:59                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-30 15:45                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-07-30 13:32               ` Ergus
2021-07-30 15:07                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-02 22:13               ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-30 18:42             ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-30  6:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-31 12:12             ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-31 13:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-31 16:55                 ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-31 17:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 11:43   ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 11:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 12:06       ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:16           ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 12:36     ` Ergus
2021-07-28 13:07       ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:27           ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 13:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-28 13:38               ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-28 14:41                 ` Manuel Giraud
2021-07-28 15:15                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-28 16:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-29 23:25         ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-07-30  0:54           ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-30  3:02             ` Andrei Kuznetsov
2021-07-30 18:48             ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-28 15:12     ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-29 23:28       ` Stephen Leake
2021-07-30  0:19         ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-30 18:44           ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2021-07-29  4:35     ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-28 15:09 ` Perry E. Metzger
2021-07-29 23:35   ` Stephen Leake

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