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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	 Matthew Trzcinski <matt@excalamus.com>,
	 emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [elpa] externals/org 26ef5e3e5b: org-src: Use `sh-mode' for all the shells it can handle
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 16:27:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkjmh3st.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM=F=bCww+bpZyjz7hJfBvnDHO1n1tHOaX7XR7C248KrXc4R_w@mail.gmail.com> (Lynn Winebarger's message of "Mon, 17 Apr 2023 12:16:36 -0400")

Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 12:10 PM Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> >  (defcustom org-src-lang-modes
>> > -  '(("C" . c)
>> > +  `(("C" . c)
>> >      ("C++" . c++)
>> >      ("asymptote" . asy)
>> > -    ("bash" . sh)
>> >      ("beamer" . latex)
>> >      ("calc" . fundamental)
>> >      ("cpp" . c++)
>> > @@ -208,9 +215,10 @@ but which mess up the display of a snippet in Org
>> exported files.")
>> >      ("elisp" . emacs-lisp)
>> >      ("ocaml" . tuareg)
>> >      ("screen" . shell-script)
>> > -    ("shell" . sh)
>> >      ("sqlite" . sql)
>> > -    ("toml" . conf-toml))
>> > +    ("toml" . conf-toml)
>> > +    ("shell" . sh)
>> > +    ,@(org-src--get-known-shells))
>> >    "Alist mapping languages to their major mode.
>>
>> Side note: while it really doesn't matter here for such trivial
>> top-level code, I prefer to put such ,@ at the beginning rather than the
>> end of lists, when it's an option.  Basically because it's more
>> efficient to add to the beginning rather than to the end of a list:
>>
>>     ELISP> (macroexpand '`(,@(list 1 2) a b c d))
>>     (append (list 1 2) '(a b c d))
>>     ELISP> (macroexpand '`(a b c d ,@(list 1 2)))
>>     (cons 'a (cons 'b (cons 'c (cons 'd (list 1 2)))))
>>     ELISP>

Is this just an implementation detail, or is there a reason that this
could not expand to 

  (append '(a b c d) (list 1 2))

> Why is the former more efficient than the latter?  It looks like the former
> would have to construct the '(1 2) list twice, and the latter only once.
> And the '(a b c d) cons cells are only allocated once either way.

(I believe) It is more efficient, since there are fewer function calls.
I have had issues in the past with ,@ expanding to code that would have
exceeded the maximal evaluation depth, until I split it up and manually
used `append' that has the advantage of being implemented in C.

> Lynn



  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-17 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <168174708495.14139.12756054653439048176@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20230417155805.3E200C1391A@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2023-04-17 16:08   ` [elpa] externals/org 26ef5e3e5b: org-src: Use `sh-mode' for all the shells it can handle Stefan Monnier
2023-04-17 16:16     ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-17 16:27       ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2023-04-17 16:37         ` Andreas Schwab
2023-04-17 16:42           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-17 16:39         ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-04-17 16:47           ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-04-17 17:37           ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-17 18:33             ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-04-17 20:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-18  9:50                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-04-17 17:11       ` Stefan Monnier
2023-04-17 17:24         ` Lynn Winebarger

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