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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, xemacs-design@xemacs.org
Subject: Re: Rationale for split-string?
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 17:55:17 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87adem27ey.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E196jkF-0005dy-00@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 19 Apr 2003 00:14:31 -0400")

    >   (split-string ",,data,," ",")
    > => ("" "data" "")

    rms> Is that wrong?  If so, what result do you think is right?
    rms> ("" "" "data" "" "") could be argued for, but I am not sure
    rms> it is better.

Well, if you are parsing a comma separated value file (the standard
text/plain output format for spreadsheets and some databases, such as
subversion), the five-element list is exactly what you want, and the
three-element list is a type error (incomplete record).  In what case
would the three-element list be desirable?  I understand the case for
a one-element result, but not three.

I see basically two modes.  In one mode you are parsing fields from
each of a sequence of records, in which case you want to retain null
strings as null values.  In the other, you are parsing a (free-form)
stream of words, in which case null words (usually) don't exist, so
you want to throw away _all_ of the null strings.  In fact, all of the
whitespace-only strings, too, but those normally won't arise in the
common case where SEPARATORS matches contiguous whitespace.

I think we should support both modes, but the token-parser is easy to
derive from the field-parser, while it's impossible to do the reverse
because the token parser throws away information.  I conclude that the
field-parser (the XEmacs behavior) is more primitive, and I'd like to
call that `split-string', with either more sophisticated behavior
implemented by overloading the separators argument to take keywords
for special treatment, or (preferably) in a separate function.


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  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-19  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-17  9:06 Rationale for split-string? Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-17 11:30 ` Stefan Reichör
2003-04-18  1:54   ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-18  2:59     ` Steve Youngs
2003-04-17 17:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-17 19:32   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-04-18 11:50   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-18 14:17     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-19  8:18       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-19 13:35     ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-19  4:14   ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-19  8:55     ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2003-04-21  0:59       ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-21  1:55         ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-04-21 10:58         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-21 21:11           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-04-21 23:43             ` Miles Bader
2003-04-22  3:26               ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-04-22  4:09                 ` Jerry James
2003-04-22  8:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-04-22 13:22                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-22 14:38                       ` Jerry James
2003-04-22 12:56                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-04-22 14:56                     ` Jerry James
2003-04-22 15:27                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-04-22 13:19                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-22 13:39                   ` Miles Bader
2003-04-22 13:51                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-04-22 16:26                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-04-23  1:00           ` Richard Stallman
2003-04-23  4:09             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-04-24 23:12               ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-20  1:55               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-05-22 15:00                 ` Kai Großjohann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-20  3:11 Bill Wohler

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