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From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Packages quality
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 17:28:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dbcn58h.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvbl0pq6z2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 06 Jan 2022 09:30:31 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Do we want to collect as many packages as possible, even if the
>> implementations and practices are sub-optimal, are displaced by
>> alternative implementations in Emacs or ELPA, etc. or should we try to
>> restrict the packages to popular, "good citizens" of the Emacs package
>> space, in an effort to raise the standards and clean up "obsolete" and
>> "redundant" packages.  It is probably clear that I have an inclination
>> towards the latter position: Going forward it seems preferable to have
>> as many useful and idiomatic packages available directly via the ELPAs,
>> without burdening newcomers with duplicate functionalities.  My
>> motivation in contributing to NonGNU ELPA is to further this goal.
>
> Note that (Non)GNU ELPA in the long term will inevitably also contain
> old/redundant/outdated packages unless we go and actively remove such
> packages (which we haven't done so far).

Of course, but this seems to be a separate issue.  Thinking about if a
package is already deprecated or could be improved now is a different
consideration than the (still real) issue of maintaining and preserving
this for future releases.

> So, I think if we want to improve the quality, in the long term, the way
> to do that is not just by restricting which packages we add, but by
> finding ways to regularly re-assess the quality of packages and coming
> up with good ways to remove/demote packages based on that (and similarly
> promote those packages that are currently particularly good).

What do you mean by promote/demote packages?  Something like a
"featured" section in GNOME Software
(https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software)?

>
>         Stefan
>

-- 
	Philip Kaludercic



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-06 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20220106082302.0A19CC0DA1E@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2022-01-06 10:02   ` [nongnu] main 74116339a8 2/3: * elpa-packages (anzu): New package Philip Kaludercic
2022-01-06 12:00     ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-06 13:35       ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-01-06 14:30         ` Packages quality (was: [nongnu] main 74116339a8 2/3: * elpa-packages (anzu): New package) Stefan Monnier
2022-01-06 15:03           ` Bozhidar Batsov
2022-01-06 17:07             ` Packages quality Stefan Monnier
2022-01-06 19:50               ` Tim Cross
2022-01-07  7:54               ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-07 11:45                 ` John Yates
2022-01-07 12:16                   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-07 15:52                     ` John Yates
2022-01-07  7:55             ` Packages quality (was: [nongnu] main 74116339a8 2/3: * elpa-packages (anzu): New package) Stefan Kangas
2022-01-07 10:22               ` Bozhidar Batsov
2022-01-07 10:54                 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-06 17:28           ` Philip Kaludercic [this message]
2022-01-06 19:55         ` [nongnu] main 74116339a8 2/3: * elpa-packages (anzu): New package Juri Linkov
2022-01-07  7:55         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-16 17:49           ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-01-16 22:19             ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-19  8:57               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-01-19 15:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-16 22:32             ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-16 23:16               ` Ergus
2022-01-19  9:05                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-01-16 23:47               ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-19  9:03               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-01-17  7:37             ` Jean Louis
2022-01-19  9:10               ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-01-07 10:02         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-10  1:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2022-01-07  9:38     ` Augusto Stoffel

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