From: philipk@posteo.net (Philip K.)
To: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net, self@gkayaalp.com,
arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, ghe@sdf.org,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com
Subject: Re: Context menus and mouse-3 [was: Changes for emacs 28]
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 23:58:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874knwawvz.fsf@bulbul> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200917201009.zkbphv2veyhdany4@Ergus> (message from Ergus on Thu, 17 Sep 2020 22:10:09 +0200)
Ergus <spacibba@aol.com> writes:
> But after all I understood that it is very hard to convince anyone
> (students, colleges, projects managers) to invest so much time and
> reading to learn how to do something simple they already know how to do
> everywhere else.
I sometimes feel this aspect is overstated. Yes, you might be a bit
confused at first, but learning the basics of *using* Emacs isn't a
intellectual endeavour. Arrow keys work, "Home", "End", "Delete"
too. "Copy-Pasting" is probably the first big hurdle, but that's just a
1:1 mapping at first. Buffer and window management are 3-4 keybindings
each. Working with files really only requires understating how to open
files and how to save them. With these few keybindings, you already know
the basics. I've seen people stick to vim just because it's cool knowing
less about the editor.
Sure, if someone's in a hurry to edit a file, they don't want to learn
how to use a proper Editor first, but I don't think that Emacs should be
geared towards that demographic either. If you want to open a file via
the GUI, change a few words and forget about it, Gedit/Kwrite/Mousepad
is probably a better choice (with better DE integration).
--
Philip K.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-17 21:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-14 3:06 Context menus and mouse-3 [was: Changes for emacs 28] Drew Adams
2020-09-14 6:11 ` Ergus
2020-09-14 6:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-14 6:48 ` Ergus
2020-09-14 7:49 ` tomas
2020-09-14 7:58 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-14 8:29 ` tomas
2020-09-14 9:03 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-14 9:12 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-14 11:37 ` tomas
2020-09-14 12:36 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-14 15:59 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-14 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-14 15:47 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-14 20:54 ` tomas
2020-09-15 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-15 13:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19 7:47 ` Tak Kunihiro
2020-09-19 8:02 ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-11 23:38 ` Context menus and mouse-3 Juri Linkov
2021-07-12 1:25 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-12 11:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 20:56 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-13 0:19 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-13 11:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 23:46 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-14 4:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-14 23:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-15 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-15 22:23 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 6:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-16 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 20:05 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-18 5:13 ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-18 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-19 15:55 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-19 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-20 20:52 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-20 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-20 23:15 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-21 4:39 ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-21 5:07 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-21 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-21 17:26 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-22 3:49 ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-22 4:06 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-19 19:59 ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2021-07-20 20:51 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-12 22:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-12 23:56 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-13 3:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-13 23:32 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-14 2:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-14 23:32 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-15 1:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-15 22:31 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 15:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-16 18:50 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-15 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-15 22:28 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-16 18:56 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 23:13 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-07-17 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-17 21:46 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-17 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-19 17:48 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-07-19 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-14 15:10 ` Context menus and mouse-3 [was: Changes for emacs 28] Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-14 16:42 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-14 8:15 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-14 8:33 ` tomas
2020-09-14 15:57 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 19:17 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-15 20:33 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 22:47 ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 0:29 ` Corwin Brust
2020-09-16 1:47 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-16 1:25 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-16 8:10 ` Ergus
2020-09-16 15:02 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-17 3:57 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17 20:10 ` Ergus
2020-09-17 21:58 ` Philip K. [this message]
2020-09-17 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 19:41 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-16 2:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 19:35 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-16 23:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-17 3:58 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17 7:48 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-17 20:13 ` Ergus
2020-09-18 8:19 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-18 10:53 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-19 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
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