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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>,
	 Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [SPAM UNSURE] Explain a bit more on how to configure language server in Eglot's manual
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2023 11:59:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87356gvkkb.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AC3C8D5F-7543-42FE-823C-A3F8E4BA2CAE@gmail.com> (Yuan Fu's message of "Mon, 6 Mar 2023 14:28:38 -0800")

Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:

>> On Mar 5, 2023, at 4:16 PM, João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yuan, please show the patch to Eglot's manual and let's work from
>> there.
>
> I’m not an amazing writer, but here it is.

Thanks.  I think the most important part in your patch is to show me
exactly the points in the manual's writing that are confusing.

>> I'm also OK with adding more examples, and work on simplifying the
>> per-project configuration workflow, maybe by somehow making it
>> easier to translate that dotted path notation into the nested JSON
>> object that the server is ultimately looking for.
>
> I feel that explaining the relationship between the dotted notation,
> the JSON object and the plist value that eglot accepts is already some
> cognitive load. And adding a translator into the mix will make it
> worse. If we provide the translator but don’t explain how it works, it
> will be just as confusing. But I could be wrong, I didn’t ponder this
> too deeply.

The dotted-to-plist translator proposed is optional.  Some people
requested use of dotted notation and that will surely need a translator.
I wouldn't use it.

But you're right that it's orthogonal to the request of a clearly and
well-structured writing on this topic, which I agree that this version
of the manual doesn't offer (the old Eglot README was very slightly
better in this department, IIRC)

>> If this distinction is not clear in the manual, either, it should
>> be made so.
>
> initializatiOption is only mentioned in the documentation of
> eglot-server-progrems, while workspaceConfiguration has a dozen
> paragraphs devoted to it. So maybe it’s easy to take
> workspaceConfiguration as the “main” way to configure a server. 

No, there are two ways, and neither is more valuable than the other.  It
depends entirely on what the user wants.  

> Maybe we can spend a little bit of text noting initializationOption
> under the “Customizing eglot” section.

I'm leaning into making a dedicated "Server configuration" section with
3 subsections: initializationOptions, eglot-workspace-configuration, and
the representations of common JSON object that is used for both of them.

João




  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-07 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-05  4:45 Explain a bit more on how to configure language server in Eglot's manual Yuan Fu
2023-03-05 22:36 ` [SPAM UNSURE] " Stephen Leake
2023-03-06  0:16   ` João Távora
2023-03-06 22:28     ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-07 11:59       ` João Távora [this message]
2023-03-08 13:27         ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-08 13:54           ` João Távora
2023-03-08 15:01             ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-08 19:43               ` João Távora
2023-03-08 20:43                 ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-09  9:43                   ` João Távora
2023-03-08 23:19                 ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-09  8:18                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-09 17:20                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-03-10  6:26                       ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-10  7:59                         ` João Távora
2023-03-09 17:40                     ` João Távora
2023-03-09 18:05                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-03-09 18:32                         ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-09  8:28                 ` Explain a bit more on how to configure language server in Eglot's manual' Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-08 15:24             ` Explain a bit more on how to configure language server in Eglot's manual Yuri Khan
2023-03-08 15:27               ` João Távora
2023-03-08 15:52                 ` Yuri Khan
2023-03-08 16:03                   ` João Távora
2023-03-09 11:18         ` [SPAM UNSURE] " João Távora
2023-03-10  6:23           ` Yuan Fu
2023-03-14 18:09             ` Michael Eliachevitch
2023-03-14 18:53               ` João Távora
2023-03-14 22:27                 ` [PATCH] " Michael Eliachevitch
2023-03-15 11:49                   ` Michael Eliachevitch
2023-03-15 12:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-15 12:52                     ` Michael Eliachevitch
2023-03-15 18:54                       ` João Távora
2023-03-15 19:26                         ` Michael Eliachevitch
2023-03-16  0:09                           ` João Távora
2023-03-06 10:34 ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-06 10:51   ` João Távora
2023-03-06 11:00     ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-06 11:13       ` João Távora
2023-03-06 11:30         ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-03-06 11:46           ` João Távora
2023-03-06 13:08             ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-06 13:50               ` João Távora
2023-03-06 16:10                 ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-06 16:25                   ` João Távora
2023-03-06 18:18                     ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-06 18:32                       ` João Távora
2023-03-06 20:16                         ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2023-03-06 21:13                         ` Augusto Stoffel
2023-03-06 21:38                           ` João Távora
2023-03-06 13:01         ` Augusto Stoffel

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