From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What does use-package do?
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2022 08:15:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qreyjgs.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m25ygr3pu5.fsf@newartisans.com
John Wiegley wrote:
>> Honestly, I don't like use-package because it has
>> surprising behavior that often seems nosy. That is why
>> leaf was created, to organize/reduce the features that
>> use-package has and to give user a better interface, which
>> is why it cannot be integrated.
>
> You have mentioned this a few times, Naoya, but again I'll
> say that use-package 2.0 completely reorganized its internal
> structure so functions are fully modular and can be
> added/changed/removed however you wish. I'm not sure what
> you mean by "nosy" or "suprising" behavior, but if you
> wanted you could revise how _all_ of the declarative
> keywords behave. Everything is configurable these days, and
> this is how the core functionality is implemented also.
Indeed, nothing new ever needs to be created to reduce the
features of something else.
On the contrary, if anything, one should _add_ features!
The interface on the other hand should be mad as easy as
possible to configure even to non-programmers, and one can add
a "style" or "suite" option to give them a head start ...
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-11 6:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-08 4:38 What does use-package do? Payas Relekar
2022-10-08 6:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-08 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-08 12:46 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-10-08 23:49 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-09 12:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 20:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-11 4:46 ` Naoya Yamashita
2022-10-11 5:13 ` John Wiegley
2022-10-11 6:15 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2022-10-11 6:45 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-11 9:17 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-11 15:21 ` John Wiegley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-09-24 12:56 Progress on merging use-package? Payas Relekar
2022-09-24 14:08 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-24 14:22 ` Payas Relekar
2022-09-24 14:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-24 14:36 ` Payas Relekar
2022-09-24 20:24 ` John Wiegley
2022-09-25 2:34 ` Payas Relekar
2022-09-25 8:39 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-28 22:57 ` chad
2022-09-29 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-29 8:36 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-07 22:47 ` What does use-package do? Richard Stallman
2022-10-08 4:50 ` John Wiegley
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